(08-29-2011, 10:02 AM)unity100 Wrote: one would think so, however according to explanations of what intelligent infinity contact constitutes and how this can be achieved, and the result of the discussion we have made some time ago in which monica showed that it was necessary to open all energy centers in incarnation up to 6th chakra in order to achieve intelligent infinity contact and therefore attaining harvest, i wouldnt say that just receiving 4d energies/vibrations would be enough.
Generally speaking, by referring to a person's ability to perceive 4d understandings, I am saying the same thing that you are.
Quote:totally due to free will of entities on the planet. the entities could be harvest ready long before the vibrations began in 1937. or straggle behind like they are doing just now. or anything else, ranging from the tree people in sirius being able to send a spaceship to explore the meaning of hostile and warlike acts to this planet as they prepare for their harvest in end 3d, or even like how they were able to approach social memory complex state two times or so.
a function of free will. the planet on the other hand, moves according to the mechanism infinite intelligence provided it seems.
lol..tree people. I think you're missing the underlying perception in my opinion. The time in which the planet makes its transition and the harvest mechanic should coincide and be one in the same because they are both the same dimensional shift. Now you're saying the harvest has a subjective quality? You have been stressing that it occurs mechanically. I agree that there is a free will quality, as I believe the harvest occurs upon death. Again, if the planet is able to make use of energies to shift dimensionally, it must be moving through the same local gateway the entities use.
Quote:what was the cosmic purpose of maldek people destroying their planet ? nothing. a total result of free will. and you think 80 years gap is something significant and cant be meaningless. an entire planet has become a band of asteroids in orbit around the sun now. same goes for the lagging behind.
That's my point..the 80 years has no meaning. I'm making the observation that in terms of cyclical timings, the harvest gateway opening shouldn't lag behind the planet's ability to shift dimensionally. Yet, Ra said it's reasonable to assume the harvest may occur in 2011. What that means for the experience here in space/time, I don't know. But I think they were referring to the harvest in a collective sense, not that the gateway will open in 2011. Actually, Ra doesn't say the harvest will happen in 2011 though, they say it can happen. Don asks him that question, and Ra says it's a reasonable time for harvest. If he would have asked if the harvest could occur in 2020, Ra would probably have said the same thing. This idea that an event may happen during or around 2011 is then arbitrarily based on a less than adequate question. So no free will violation concept is being postulated. I'm putting forth that the cyclical timings of planetary and entity dimensional shift should be one and the same, as it pertains to the last cycle. I'm not saying that when the planet shifted the entities should have been forced to shift also. I'm saying that it can happen, because the gateway is one and the same.