Share your vision for the harvest

[Tenet Nosce]

7 - 10 billion harvested souls

Where did this number come from?

Also, please see Harvest: Do The Math, if you haven't already.

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[The following is not a reply to βαθμιαίος]

Hey, how bout we forget about Ra for a minute and see what Q'uo has to say on the matter:

G: M writes, “I would like to ask Q’uo what is the fate of the veil on this planet beginning in 2013 and continuing in time thereafter? Will it gradually dissolve? If so, at approximately what rate? Please describe how this occurrence will affect the planet and the third-density entities upon it as much as you can without infringing on the Law of Confusion. Thank you.”

Great question, M! And seemingly pertinent to this discussion.

We are those of Q’uo, and we thank the one known as M for this query. When one is, as you are, possessed of physical senses which perceive a physical world, it is completely understandable that you would not necessarily grasp the concept that all apparently solid objects are actually fields of energy.

Ah, so this concept is hard to grasp.

As fields of energy, the closest that they come to matter is small fields of energy within the larger and encompassing field of energy which are called atoms. However, from your scientists you have received the information that even these points of matter, so called, are in fact energy fields, that matter has never been seen by your keenest telescope. Rather, it is the path of energy that is seen. And you know from your scientists that an atom consists almost entirely of space. We mention these scientific facts to you so that you may begin to wrap your mind around the concept of the nested densities of the creation.

Yes, let's see if we can begin to wrap our minds around the concept, shall we?

Third-density Earth is nested within fourth-density Earth. It is not the same Earth as fourth-density Earth.

Perhaps this is a metaphorical way for Q'uo to say that third-density earth is really the same as fourth-density earth, depending on what we choose to believe about it.

Third-density Earth will not become fourth-density Earth, any more than first-density Earth became second-density Earth, or second-density Earth became third-density Earth.

Plain. As. Day.

These densities are nested in such a way as to occupy the same area or influence within space/time and time/space, held lovingly by the overarching energy field of your sun.

Space/time AND time/space. That means both, simultaneously. As in: all together at once.

Third-density Earth is an Earth whose light is waning. While it will remain third-density, it will no longer support third-density entities in their seeking of the truth.

Gotcha. This implies that the third-density entities will shortly be leaving this sphere. However many millions, or billions, of them there are.

Thusly, third density is shortly to become inactive, we would say, within three or four hundred of your years beyond 2012.

AHA! Here it is, the smoking gun of the gradualist theory of harvest!

No, actually this doesn't say anything about a prolonged harvest period lasting hundreds of years. It is saying that 3D earth will continue to persist for a few more hundred years, post-harvest. But even then, it will END. Done. Kaput. There one minute, gone the next.

Some of the more gnarly details of such a move from pre-harvest to post-harvest third-density earth is discussed in Post-harvest continuity of consciousness.

Thusly, 2013 upon your planet will look very much like 2012 upon your planet.

Yes, to those who are still here.

However, you will find that your population of entities grows more and more interested and fascinated with the reparation of the Earth and the healing of what you call your Mother Earth or Gaia.

Interesting. That seems like a pretty dramatic shift in gears. Now what kind of entities do you suppose will take on this task? And moreover... what really is to be "repaired" when fourth density earth is already alive and well? Hrmmm. Maybe what is meant is to "make reparations" to earth for being a bunch of jackasses this last 75,000 years. I don't see this as a "reward" for having brought so much "love and light" to the earth, as has been suggested in Harvest: Do The Math.

Those who incarnate at this time upon Planet Earth, that is, after 2012, will be those whose experiences in other incarnations have carried with them an element of adhering karma because of the destruction of their Earth whether it be this Earth and the destruction of Atlantis, or Maldek, or Mars, or several other Earths that created an uninhabitable third-density planet and thusly needed to finish third density upon Planet Earth.

What? Several other earths that created uninhabitable third-density planets? Hrmmm... sounds like some of these jackasses have been up to no good for much longer than 75,000 years.

There are quite a few millions of those who feel that desire at this time to be part of the healing of the Mother. And there is great joy in contemplating that healing.

Awesome! And yet this is not harvest.

Fourth-density Earth is an entirely different sphere, within which third density is nested.

Just in case it wasn't crystal clear the last time.

And as fourth-density light becomes that which your sun is capable of offering, that fourth-density Earth shall more and more become populated by those from third-density Earth who have graduated in a positive sense and wish to move on.

Those who wish to move on. After they learn/teach whatever they wanted to teach/learn through the experience of healing a badly battered sphere which is on its way out. This is like hospice care for the planet. It will probably involve figuring out what to do with the untold empty carcasses lying around the place. And a perfectly reasonable choice, considering such an entity's past. But it is not harvest.

It will be a long time before entities who are inhabiting third density will be able to see entities of fourth density. However, they are as real and as physical, shall we say, to themselves and to fourth-density Earth as you are to your Earth.

Seems pretty straightforward, and entirely consistent with what Ra said.

We realize that this is one of the less comfortable or naturally obvious concepts having to do with the concept of densities.

Less comfortable and less naturally obvious. What? You mean it will not all be candy canes and sugar plum fairies from 2012 on out?

So, yes, I can the see the reason for difficulty with understanding. What I don't understand is a stubborn resistance to release old ideas in order to increase understanding, or to make a flat out denial that it is possible, to even the least degree, to understand.

It is natural for a person to think that this same Earth upon which your feet make footsteps shall become fourth density and that on this same Earth, fourth density shall take place.

It is natural to think such things, but thinking them does not, in fact, "make it so". Sorry, Picard, but it looks like you will have to stay in The Treehuggers' Treehouse along with your warp drive and holodeck.

However, we would suggest to you that it is much like wanting to take your physical body with you when you pass from physical life upon this planet and hoping to drag what this instrument would call this chemical distillery of a body into fourth density and attempt to lug it around when everyone else is dancing with a much lighter and electrically driven rather than chemically driven body.

I call this "wishful thinking to the extreme". Also I would point out that the description here between the electrically and chemically driven body is precisely the same as offered by Ra.

And when you add all of those who are not physically in this room but who have moved into the energy of this particular circle of seeking by the questioning that they offer, then that lighthouse energy becomes exponentially greater.

That would be us, by the way.