More Elenin

[Raman]

I don't understand why you are so quick in trying to debunk "government do not lie to you" about technology, elites, mayan calendar.

Ok, I'll 'bite'. Exactly what are you talking about now? What is your 'position'?

No need to act. It is a very clear trend. You tend to put any poster that deal with a hint of trying to discover 'conspiracies', or even when trying to dig deeper, or offering novel information by steering the way people have to think about things, putting people down, derailing the threads.

It has been very consistent. There is no need to explain any 'position' .

Regarding my 'position' on comet Elenin, I am still trying to get one if you so kindly allow us to try to discover what is going on.

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did a re-read of the "Harvest" tag last night and found few bits, which I believe are relevant:

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

there is no 2012 at all. they've confirmed - 2011. The fractal nature (theory) of the Mayan calendar, which I strongly trust confirms 2011 as the year of completion of the cycle. The exact date of the end of the 7th day (Oct 28) I don't trust, firstly, due to the calendar changes/shifts made in the past; next, the 7th day is very likely to be a new octave of energy and time density, which is out of our comprehension in 3d. If the the conversion math is correct, the 6th night starts on Sep 19 and ends on Oct 8, but again the date is likely to not be exact, imho.

Also, it is mentioned multiple times that the harvest will begin "at the striking of an hour", which is an exact pre-defined moment. If I recall properly, there was a statement that the exact planetary configurations are irrelevant to the moment, and if there would be an extreme catalyst, in the form of "Earth changes", was yet undefined at the time of the sessions. Maybe "someone" has decided that we really need one (all those prophecies) and we now see these "celestial objects" getting here to introduce one. Of course, a harvest happening in a peaceful environment is our best path, even if it's a mixed harvest.

To be honest, in the recent years, I somehow feel that all these nibiru and other prophesied cataclysms will likely happen past the point of the harvest. What I mean is that they will come to the "abandoned 3d earth" to "clean up the mass" once we all leave the place. I truly believe that our society have outgrown the needs to fight each other. Besides that media is trying hard to make us hostile, aggressive and frighten, all the people I meet in my life are peaceful and loving (though, somewhat "fragile"). We don't really need more extreme catalysts like a WWIII or a series of earthquakes and volcanic irruptions. And we could well live up with this broken and twisted monetary system for a couple of more months, but hopefully not much more.

Are you people ready for the harvest? I sure am and many other, who I meet daily, are also ready. Everyone is so tired of this twisted system in which we are forced to operate in ... it is about time for this nonsensical political and economical structures to just go away!

I think your intuition is very well developed in this matter.

Considering that the South American 6d group was much more successful than Ra itself, we can expect more exactitude from any dates perhaps...so 2011 given by Ra maybe Oct 28 more precise by the South American group. However, it could be off by a couple of months (December).

Yes it is going to happen. No doubt. And maybe by wanderers being consciously aware of this, energies can be more focused.