The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

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I'm having a hard time with the idea that a negative entity took over the Ra contact during a session, for just a question or two. It's quite contrary to my understanding of how the contact worked.

You're correct..it wasn't taken over completely. A total take over answer would have been "Yes, the harvest will occur on that date."

'Ra' wasn't able to provide total clarity to Don's question, which I have outlined above as to why.

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and before you attempt to wander off, no - harvest timing was explicitly told to be related to a cosmic mechanic. of course, its possible for anyone to claim 'negative entities made the channel say that', and dodge it - no actually its not possible. such an on-demand and selective application of such a grand statement would just be denial.

Incorrect. You're misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. You evaluate the harvest as occurring instantly because your frame of mind is highly analytical and you appreciate details (dates etc.). An understanding of the harvest becomes clear through intuitive balance. Read the quote below..

"Since the concepts of space/time, or physics, and time/space, or metaphysics, are mechanical they are not central to the spiritual evolution of the mind/body/spirit complex. The study of love and light is far more productive in its motion towards unity in those entities pondering such concepts"

An understanding of the present moment, will lead to an understanding of how the harvest functions. Ra is telling you the same thing up above in a reverse order. They also knew others would be confused..so the above advice is for everyone led astray. You attach a date to harvest because that's how you understand it. Can you not see this? Read Ra's statement above again.

Ra is not saying, that through a mechanical understanding of space/time and time/space..you will come to understand the harvest. They are saying if you understand the present moment..your 'mechanical' understanding of time will be illuminated, and therefore, you will understand how the harvest occurs over 'time' and interpret it correctly.

This thread is psychedelic! Amazing..as Zenmaster says.

And I never said the harvest was transient. I said the date of 2011 is. I never said the harvest would involve armageddon, but because of our modern culture, people interpret it that way so the Orion entity is able to take advantage of that. I never said Moses, nuclear weapons, Atlantis, Tesla weapons, and UFO gov't technology were spiritual/non-transient questions in themselves, but that Ra's answers attempt to impart spiritual philosophy.

Do you see how you're misinterpreting everything I say?