(09-06-2011, 02:47 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(09-05-2011, 08:39 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I'm having a hard time with the idea that a negative entity took over the Ra contact during a session, for just a question or two. It's quite contrary to my understanding of how the contact worked.
Perhaps we aren't talking about an overt "takeover" as much as interference... perhaps some communication came through distorted, or that there was some communication that didn't come through at all.
what difference does it make. if you propose distortion of communication as such, you have to propose it for any kind of 'transitory' information. ranging from nazis to rasputin to atlantis to maldek destruction to anything else.
that basically would totally invalidate everything in the material except 'we are all one'. also totally invalidating any need to think on the quotes, any kind of discussion over them, any information that is the result of their conclusions. because any of them can be fake now.
Quote:In any case, we are left here with a response to a direct question about harvest being in 2011. As I have emphatically argued- it should be reasonably assumed that such a grave error in understanding on Don's part would have been corrected by Ra. Otherwise, we should assume that Don was correct in his framing of the query. The third option is as forwarded here by Icaro- that there was interference during the transmission. Are there other options that you see here that I am overlooking?
what you are overlooking, is one of the options you count is not an option at all. acceptance of that 'option' totally invalidates any information in this material.
Quote:Also, I would be interested to hear in more detail- in terms of your understanding of the channeling process- why you feel so strongly that the contact could not have been corrupted. According to my own theoretical knowledge, and experience with such things, no form of protection is "foolproof".
first, corruption of a contact does not 'just' happen. appropriate imbalances and distortions have to be present for corruption. and if they are there, they do not just get exploited for duration of two questions and answers. they remain there exploitable.
second, this channeling was done unconsciously, and in a manner that totally put the channeler out of its body. the channeler, was not present there. what was there was an entity named as Ra. you can see this as an entity incarnating into a 3d body without going through the veil.
don was not talking to an entity channeled by Carla. don was talking to Ra.
as you can see from various incidents like the 'tape incident' in which Ra had gone back in time in order to see what was wrong with the tape, the capacities of the entity Ra in that body remain the same as they are when they are in their original home environment - in regard to time/space.
therefore, a negative entity of a mere 5th order, 'corrupting' the Ra entity and causing it to give a negatively oriented or confused answer, is outright ridiculous. that would mean that Ra would be corruptible even in their home vibration, and even in their home state. when you propose or accept this nonsense, then you totally let go of any information given in the book. not only that, you also let go of the orders of progress in regard to this octave , from 5th to late 6th at least.
third, if a contact became corrupted, the original entity would not stay there continuing channeling. because then they would be aiding proliferation of negative information with their positive information. this is probably why there are continual affirmations and confirmations of group's purity and dedication of service by Ra in a repeated fashion. commending of purity of a compromised, corrupted group, would be outright stupid. if contact was compromised at that point, there would be an entity imitating Ra, and the information given would take on an increasingly corrupted form, continually concentrating on the 'transitory' information equating the given one and expanding on it incessantly. one look to other compromised channeled material is enough to see how it develops from its start to its late stages. such a format, is not present here. the contact is consistent from start to end, in tone, manner, information focused on, approach, and depth. it doesnt vary. note how i am saying 'contact' and not the 'channel'. for :
fourth, the proposition of corruption of Ra ENTITY (as Carla was not even there at that point in time) for just two quotes someone has problems with, is exactly what it seems - biased denial. there is no deeper meaning in that. especially when the proposition is refused to be held for any other quote, but that one-two that contradicts with the person's perspective. it is ridiculous that this is even being discussed here at this point.