The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

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Can you please explain how a 5D entity "looks for a target of opportunity" while being bound to our "normal" perceptions of 3D time? Is the entity just following Carla around... or?

entity is following Carla around. i dont know why you even ask that. it is expressed that the entity has past the quarantine with its astral body, and waiting around Carla in time/space. (astral part of this nexus).

Questioner: Could you give an example of how this programming by the Higher Self would then bring about education through parallel experiences?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the simplest example of this apparent simultaneity of existence of two selves, which are in truth one self at the same time/space, is this: the Oversoul, as you call it, or Higher Self, seems to exist simultaneously with the mind/body/spirit complex which it aids. This is not actually simultaneous, for the Higher Self is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex as needed from a position in development of the entity which would be considered in the future of this entity.

So the Higher Self is in sixth density, which would be considered in the future of an entity in 3D. Please explain what I am missing, or how I have misinterpreted the quote.

i already told it in my earlier post, but probably you havent read it by the time you replied to this part since it remains in the below quotes.

higher self of an entity is THAT entity's future manifestation. and, as you can see, it manifests at mid 6th density, where unification of balances of male/female polarities happen, not to mention the paths. at this point you can claim that time/space and space/time are more evenly distributed.

this doesnt allow entities before that point to be able to do 'time travel to change things'.

in short, just any entity currently in 6d is not your future manifestation. not to mention that any entity in 5d does not happen to be in its future.

Questioner: Then the Higher Self operates from the future as we understand things. In other words my Higher Self would operate from what I consider to be my future? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. From the standpoint of your space/time, this is correct.

Plain as day. Either that or I am suffering again from a severe chronic case of brain farts.

So, the mind/body/spirit complex in sixth density, draws upon its past experiences or "living bank of memory", creating the Higher Self manifestation, which then becomes available to the seeker "in the past" moving through third density.

this is what i say when you are making hasty conclusions in your hurry and getting off-thrown.

read the bold part again and emphasize the underlined part. the entity higher self is the future of THAT entity in that particular nexus. it is not the future manifestation of another entity in another planet as of that moment. to another entity, that higher self would just be a 6d entity.

Yes- it is our limited perception which creates the illusion of past-present-future. Therefore, I would imagine that a sixth density entity would be able to view the entirety of a 3D cycle as a whole.

Unless you are saying that only a 6D entity could do this, and that 4D and 5D entities are somehow restricted in consciousness in linear time? I don't think I am following you here.

first, there is no such thing as 'linear' and 'nonlinear' time. light, which has been created at the start of everything, travels in an infinite straight line. and after that EVERYthing that you count comes - including the concept you call 'time', which is actually just something that measures change of the manifestations/states/movements of existing entities made of light, compared to OTHER changes. it is a comparison. there is one 'time'.

but secondly and more importantly, there are endless pointers to what time in this planetary nexus in 3d means :

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...=1&ss=1#20

16.20 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

the 'present' that some speak of is NOT valid until 7d.

Perhaps if you offered more detail as to the nature and abilities of 4D and 5D negative entities, with respect to what they can and can't do to manipulate 3D entities it would help to clear things up. I am apparently attributing greater power to these negative entities then they have, in which case it would behoove me to know their limitations more clearly.

if you revisit and work on the archetypal material you have easily dismissed, you will notice a lot of important aspects that make up the creation, including the quite important positive/negative male/female polarities and their relation with space/time and time/space.

analyzing these, you will see that each density increasingly approximates 1:1 balance and merger of these counterparts, asymptotically approaching infinity.

in any lesser point in this function, any manifestation will be unevenly distributed in space/time and time/space, as well as positive/negative, male/female, limiting what it can do and its properties depending on the measure of the unification.

from this point on you will be able to see that mid 6d, a point where the polarities merge, is a point where the possibilities you propose begin, due to increased permeability of the polarities/balances from both sides. not to mention from this point on, (and 6d in general) the separation in between physical/astral become blurred, leading to smaller differences in between a physical body manifestation and astral. which totally is removed when an entity gets into 7d.

any point before this, the separation of polarities and all the limiting factors they bring, exist - including the impossibility of time travel into your own past and whatnot and so on.



I did find this quote:

Questioner: What is the objective; what does the leader, the one at the very top of the pecking order in fifth-density of the Orion group, have as an objective? I would like to understand his philosophy with respect to his objectives and plans for what we might call the future or his future?

Ra: I am Ra. This thinking will not be so strange to you. Therefore, we may speak through the densities as your planet has some negatively oriented action in sway at this space/time nexus.

The early fifth-density negative entity, if oriented towards maintaining cohesion as a social memory complex, may in its free will determine that the path to wisdom lies in the manipulation in exquisite propriety of all other-selves. It then, by virtue of its abilities in wisdom, is able to be the leader of fourth-density beings which are upon the road to wisdom by exploring the dimensions of love of self and understanding of self. These fifth-density entities see the creation as that which shall be put in order.

Dealing with a plane such as this third-density at this harvesting, it will see the mechanism of the call more clearly and have much less distortion towards plunder or manipulation by thoughts which are given to negatively oriented entities although in allowing this to occur and sending less wise entities to do this work, any successes redound to the leaders.

The fifth-density sees the difficulties posed by the light and in this way directs entities of this vibration to the seeking of targets of opportunity such as this one. If fourth-density temptations, shall we say, towards distortion of ego, etc. are not successful the fifth-density entity then thinks in terms of the removal of light.

All of the above described manipulations seem to imply an ability to function outside the bounds of 3D space/time. If this is not the case, please describe what is the case.

that is incorrect. in nowhere above anything that is relevant to 'time' is expressed or implied.

an entity that is manifesting as a 5d entity at YOUR current time (in this 3d nexus), may send you thoughts that affect you. this does not mean that entity traveled back in time.

the 5d entity that you speak of, as already TOLD in the material, got past quarantine with its astral body, and was waiting around the group in time/space looking for opportunity. and at a point, considered withdrawing because its efforts were failing.

it was not outside bounds of time. to be outside bounds of time you need to be in 7d.

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So the Higher Self is in sixth density, which would be considered in the future of an entity in 3D. Please explain what I am missing, or how I have misinterpreted the quote.

Questioner: Then the Higher Self operates from the future as we understand things. In other words my Higher Self would operate from what I consider to be my future? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. From the standpoint of your space/time, this is correct.

Plain as day. Either that or I am suffering again from a severe chronic case of brain farts.

I don't understand this to mean that all 6D is in 'our' future. 6D Ra is in some other entities' future; ie. the entities of Venus. Our Higher Selves are in our future. But unless our Higher Selves are part of Ra, Ra isn't in our future, but simply millions of 'our' years ahead of us in their evolution.

4 billion 75 000 years to be precise. this was when Ra's 3d had ended.

some seem to think that a higher density means 'future'.