(09-09-2011, 11:10 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: My persisting in this thread is an attempt to further understand the torrent of confusion which has ensued, and thereby learn/teach a fundamental mechanic of confusion itself. We are currently looking at some interesting hypotheses here, and so far the effort appears to be fruitful. False conclusions will inevitably be drawn, and premises may be reevaluated. This is the process of learning.
and my persisting in this and few other threads was due to a necessity to emphasize that hypocritical application of logic and standards and wanton switches of approach depending on subject was something that should not be done. neither giving lip service as 'i am open to all possibilities' while doing all that.
it doesnt even matter who believes what. its totally about something else.
the subject may have been something else than 2011 date. the subject may have been something that is not even related to harvest. but if someone had applied one kind of logic 90% of the time, and then suddenly switched to some other logic for two tiny pieces of information on one subject, but still had taken precautions not to let go of the former approach in order to apply it to everything else when the particular subject is eliminated, i would have given the exact same kind of reaction.
saddest point of all this story has been someone attempting to claim that Ra material was compromised based on on-demand and on the spot subjective non-measurements (questioner's purity at that given point in time instantly measured - really ? despite being irrelevant to boot), just for ONE quote (thankfully it has been expanded to two quotes when objected about the selectiveness), not being aware that the proposition would invalidate everything after that quote, and then being rather hasty in trying to fix it up when faced with the prospect, in a makeshift manner - this time by totally invalidating common english sentences.
my problem is that - if you have a standard, you apply it everywhere. you dont selectively skip it when things get uncomfortable, for any reason.