The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

[unity100]

unity100 picked up that I had made an error with respect to the "true" and "false" yahweh, but himself gets the dates wrong in his correction:

that wouldnt be relevant. 'yahweh lurking around' would be inappropriate for the time of Ra contact, since you are apparently referring to the orion entity which usurped yahweh's identity after 1600 BC. Ra contact, in the latest, is 2300 BC or so. before 1600 BC date, yahweh was the confederation entity, positive yahweh. there would be no concept of yahweh 'lurking' around that time.

#1 there is no misconception or date error in the above post.

3600 years ago calculates into 1600 BC. and it says 1600 Bc above. like in the correction. Ra contact evaluates into latest being in 2300 BC, if you look at the story of pyramid building.

Might I also note that I have found unity100's assessments of the material to not only be very precise, but also well-studied. I have also found his replies, though sometimes irritating, to be the most effective catalyst which has propelled me to seek deeper into the information for which I am grateful.

yet my irritating yet thought-provoking answers do not help anyone from making hasty conclusions. you still are saying that there was a date error in my post #1, which was something that remained from months ago.

With all due respect, I have now point blank pointed out how- in the very two quotes in question- you made serious errors specifically with respect to numbers in the material.

First, you incorrectly corrected me on the date for the Ra contact to be 1333 BC, at the time of Ahkenaten, precisely as I stated in my posts, which caused me to deeply doubt myself and question the ideas I had been formulating at the time. The correct date is 3300 years ago, meaning 1300 BC.

that is incorrect.

ra CONTACT is something that you can use for Ra's first manifestation among egypt entities, or, their pyramid manifestation, which apparently ended circa 2300 bc or so, after a few thousand years. after this point, there is no 'contact' in the sense of a contact being made.

akhenaton receiving various teachings or inspiration through various means does not classify as contacts like the above. its no different than a random prophet in middle east receiving stuff. if, you would like to dub this as CONTACT, then you can count any entity which received any kind of thought inspiration throughout history as a 'contact'. however apparently this is not being seen as such by the guardians or council of nine.

Secondly, you directly misstated that Ra said harvest was in 2011, when Ra did not. Don said harvest was in 2011. Whether or not harvest was indeed in 2011, relative to that nexus, is beside the point.

The point is for you to acknowledge this, and also notice your above error, and also notice how they are connected. The opportunity is for you to question why.

i cant correct any error i have not made. as for 2011 date, ra's answer evaluates to 2011. 'this is an approximation' -> what is an approximation ? how many approximations did don make in that statement ? one. the other is asking whether it was a period of time, querying a total opposite concept. there was not even a period of time mentioned so that one could answer 'this is an approximation'.

you cannot answer 'this is an appropriate nexus' to the question that is 'or will it be spread out'. there is no approximation in that.

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Please re-read my post. Ra is referring to Wanderers who are increasing the harvest, and says that they choose to incarnate during harvest. There is no way Ra could be referring to babies. That would be absurd. Wanderers increasing the harvest, during the harvest. It's clear that the harvest is a span of time, to allow those Wanderers to incarnate and do their work.

if you keep an incarnation in a period that will chance up with the harvest date, you are keeping an incarnation DURING harvest, naturally. it doesnt matter whether the harvest fits in a second, or half a year.

OK, I concede that point, and was just about to edit my post, but you beat me to it. Upon re-reading the quote, you're right: it is clearly referring to individual harvest. However, the other quote about Wanderers also was clearly referring to individual harvest, over a span of time. Thus, there are only 2 possibilities, as I see it, that could reconcile these 2 points:

1. 2011 is simply a date that's included in the span of time designated as Harvest. Ie., if harvest of individuals may span, say, 3 or 4 decades, 2011 might just be 1 year included in that span, and isn't anything special. I don't think so; this could be literally true, but is rather absurd.

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2. (more likely, in my opinion) Is that Ra considers a few decades, in the same way that we consider a minute or a second. Thus, Ra's choice of the word now refers to a span of time. It's instantaneous to Ra, but to us, it's not. What, then, is special about 2011-2012? It must be a cut-off point of some sort. Not imminent death for all Wanderers! Q'uo's answer on this seems to make the most sense to me. If this Q'uote is to be trusted, it must be realized that Q'uo is talking to Wanderers! Talking about staying here on the Earth, to clean up the mess. But there IS a demarcation. 2011 as an exact date IS given.

1 - harvest of individuals in the sense you are referring to is possible at any given time in a 3d cycle. any entity contacting infinite intelligence qualifies for harvest. this seems why all the pyramid efforts were undertaken, all directed at accomplishing some kind of infinite intelligence contact for students as a primary objective in regard to teaching, in addition to various other aims like healing bodies and balancing the planet.

if, the aim is for that, wanderer can incarnate at any given time. its not needed that there be a harvest cycle end.

2 - all date and time given in the material were given in our time units and by our own time estimates and understanding. nothing else. whenever anything that involved Ra's own perception of time was up or something else was up, it was explicitly mentioned. and in all cases it was either said that estimation was meaningless, like the exact locations of the harvested entities from this planet like rasputin.

again, all date and time given in the material were given in our time units and by our own time estimates and understanding.