Following the 4th Density Harvest, what will we perceive?

[unity100]

then why would hidden hand be any different ?

Simply because the subject matter of Hidden Hand is far more aligned with this forum (in terms of spiritual context) than discussing the barbaric belief systems of other cultures that humanity now considers outdated.

'humanity' being ? many people who live on the western, north and eastern parts of this planet ? so, more than one people considering something makes them outdated, and unacceptable.

curiously there are still people who not only believe in, but also practice barbaric belief system of south american religions in south america. police in peru is looking into various cases of human sacrifice for example.

in retrospect, majority of humanity also would consider what is being relayed in Ra material as nonsense, wrong, unacceptable, and lie.

I would guess it is only because you do not agree with the HH message that you feel none of it should exist here. I happen to strongly dislike the HH message, too. I think it's recycled and obfuscated, but I still strongly believe it is a valid Truth to the many who have had different life experiences than me, or those who are on a spiritual path that resonates at the exact level of "Truth" shared in the words of the HH message.

i didnt say that 'hidden hand message' should not exist here. leaving aside that it is not a message, there is a forum for discussing such non-Law of One material in the form of olio. it is therefore, apparently alright to discuss stuff.

that doesnt mean that we are supposed to accept them as valid, and not call out wrongness of whats wrong and explain and express those.

something resonating with someone else does not make it truth.

Unity, not sure why you just went into that whole justification about the wrongs of accepting denser actions. No one is arguing that the barbaric ways of the past should be accepted as one's Truth.

excuse me but there is no 'past' in this. if this planet was negatively polarizing, what you say 'past barbaric actions' would be the order of the day and the dominant tool of polarization.

the very fact that you are rejecting the barbaric actions you mention with your conscious mind is another pointer that explains and exemplifies the process of rejection of incompatible behavior in the quote i have pasted - that this planet is polarizing positively, even if in subconscious, and those barbaric actions are no longer acceptable at this point of polarization.

The point I feel you are missing is that these Truths may be what OTHERS still need at this time as they awaken to their true Self. You don't need to explain/justify this, as I believe we are already on the same page. :-) It is only because you brought up barbaric cultures as an extreme example to make a point, that we are even discussing them still. But we discussed them only to recognize them as a Truth of our past, which has since helped humanity evolve into the "now", where such dense manifestations are no longer necessary for most of us.

others needing something does not make all others responsible with accepting, validating what others need. that is being expected here.

if, 'hidden hand' is others' truth, it is not truth in the perspective of the material we are discussing. that is, if we are not supposed to polarize negatively here, if im not mistaken.

we are examining and studying the Law of One from positive angle. this includes not accepting sts behavior.

That does not mean we have the right to judge those cultures, though!

of course it does. you just judged them. you called their practices as barbaric and outdated, and rejected even discussing them.

you have used your judgment, in order to discern a negative behavior set that is incompatible with your chosen path. that is how it is supposed to be. there are endless iterations of judge, judgment, using judgment in the material we are discussing.

The bottom line is, through his internet ecapades tauting claims to gnosis and esoterica, anybody who happened upon the material more than likely got pointed in the RIGHT direction, towards the Ra material.

bottom line is, he is sending people in the RIGHT direction with WRONG assumptions, like how people are made believe that malice is in fact not malice, or how sts is not actually sts.

the approach here seems to be 'any advertisement is good advertisement'. that is incorrect. if it was, ra would answer affirmative to don when he had asked about the possibility of doing 'advertising' through ufo displays in order to draw attention to the material.

I find it very funny that you assume I am somehow being "led astray".

i spoke in general. and, i dont even need to show detailed examples. we are having people who are believing that malice is not malice at all (whereas in fact the very path that uses it to polarize needs malice to be what it is to be able to polarize), and at a point in the past we even had people who argued that service to others was not actually service to others or sts was not service to self in the meanings we were told them to be.

if that's not being led astray, then one wonders what is.