Greetings. Oct282011 Website (quite interesting)!

[3DMonkey]

Faith is affirmation of the will. Will is action. Hope is is empty belief, because it is belief without action. What we're really talking about is actualization here, which is movement of the spirit. Manifestation. Creation. We actualize our faith through our will, not through empty hoping.

I hope that hunger will end. I hope that I have good health. I hope our country will prosper.

I will work towards ending world hunger. I will take care of my body through personal commitment. I will actively participate in my local government. There is a big difference.

We actualize through changes in consciousness. Change in consciousness will drive us towards more committed service. Service is action. If it was as easy as hoping, then we wouldn't have to do anything. You must create change.

You cannot hope things into existence. You will them with faith in the outcome, knowing that your action will create change. Deep down inside, people really don't believe in their hopes, because if they did they wouldn't be sitting around hoping. They would recognize that they must actively participate in manifesting an outcome.

Transformation is movement of the spirit towards the great way, which is simply creation (action) symbolized in the tarot by wings. The great way is movement, action, doing, creating. Which is why it is sacramental, because it symbolizes the very nature of existence..the process of creation.

Faith is an application of the will. All belief is empty. Action is action not faith or hope.

It still sounds like you have baggage within the concept of hope, as if hope were synonymous with attachment to fantasy. If this is so, then this is where we disagree. I've given examples to things I consider to define hope, and it doesn't sound like we agree. I don't put all the weight into hope.

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I think we hope Ra is right. We hope individuating will improve us.

But Icaro's take is a fitting definition.

'We' don't 'hope' individuating will 'improve' us. We know it offers more ability to do work, to take responsibility and ownership of self.
The individuation process is the process of acceptance of self. Part of that self is the logos. Through this experience we see, demonstrably, the process and the outcome as law (of the logos). That's 'faith'. There is no necessity of 'hope' in that regard - it doesn't fit. Hope is invoked as a coping mechanism - it distances self from self through attachment to (identification with) an unreal idea. That idea just hangs around until it becomes obsolete.

You hope work is important. You hope you have the ability to take ownership. You hope there is a "self" there to work with.

Oh, wow. That is not faith.

I think your definition of hope involves a heavy load of projections that the concept of hope was never designed to bear. I agree that hope CAN be applied in such a way as to create a coping mechanism. I do not agree that this IS hope.