(10-23-2009, 06:49 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: My understanding is that our Higher Selves and their Spirit assistants, being beyond polarity, provide healing regardless of our polarity. I don't see it as 2 opposing teams at that level.
I agree as regards to "beyond polarity" and "not 2 opposing teams", but it would seem that there is a difference according to Ra. Since this difference helps explain the differences between the STS and STO paths and the original question in this thread, I'm going to make an extensive quote:
Ra Wrote:69.8 Questioner: Has a [positive] Wanderer ever been so infringed upon by a negative adept and then placed in negative time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
69.9 Questioner: Can you tell me the situation that the Wanderer finds himself in and the path back, why that path could not be the simple moving back into positive time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the Higher Self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves. [...]
69.11 Questioner: You said that the Higher Self is reluctant to enter negative space/time. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The incarnative process involves being incarnated from time/space to space/time. This is correct.
69.12 Questioner: I will make this statement and see if I am correct. When first moved into time/space of a negative polarization the positive entity experiences nothing but darkness. Then, by incarnation into negative space/time by the Higher Self, it experiences a negative space/time environment with negatively polarized other-selves. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the Higher Self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space.” Could you explain the Higher Self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative time/space that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?
Ra: I am Ra. In brief, you have answered your own query. Please question further for more precise information.
70.7 Questioner: Why is the Higher Self reluctant to enter negative time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison.
70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space I understand that the Higher Self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space. For some reason it makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us remove the concept of reluctance from the equation and then secondly, address your query more to the point. Each time/space is an analog of a particular sort or vibration of space/time. When a negative time/space is entered by an entity the next experience will be that of the appropriate space/time. This is normally done by the form-making body of a mind/body/spirit complex which places the entity in the proper time/space for incarnation.
This quote once again puts the focus on unity vs. separation. It would seem that even the higher self, that is partly beyond the STS/STO polarity, has problems completely overcoming this polarity.
Bring4th_Monica Wrote:I'm interested in this discussion as it pertains to why there is evil at all, but I think trying to really understand the mechanics of how STS entities polarize might not produce much fruit, being that covering that topic was not an objective of our Confederation friends. There just isn't a lot of data about it in the Law of One, so most of what we say would be based on speculation. Ra's objective was to provide info on how to polarize STO. Q'uo has stated that it's not their task to answer the call of STS.
I completely agree that there is a difference between the STS path and suffering/evil in general. But to be able to separate said differences, I would presume that a good understanding of the STS path is needed as well.
I too believe I have a thing or two to give "construtive criticism" about when I'm done with this incarnation. Well, actually, I'm not gonna wait.
(10-21-2009, 11:08 PM)Lavazza Wrote: I actually pondered that myself earlier- about how a group of entities (the Ra complex) who are so many millions of years in advance of us could make mistakes as great as the pyramids seem to have been in retrospect. Not intended to be a judgment of Ra of course, but it always made me wonder a bit.
After I finished reading The Law of One Book I-V I decided to read all transcripts on L/L Research from 1965 and onwards. One of the reasons was that I wanted to get to the answer of the questionmark above.
I believe part of the answer can be found in 1974-01-16:
Quote:This instrument receives my thoughts, and relays them to you. These thoughts are not my exclusive property. They are the thoughts of an entire creation of our infinite Creator. It is not necessary for the instrument to be used for you to know these thoughts. They are available to all people in all places at all times, for they are the thoughts of the Creator. And these thoughts were meant for all of mankind, in all places. These thoughts are the thoughts with which the Creator created us.
These thoughts are very simple. They are a simplicity that is unique, for they are the very foundation of the creation. This is what we are attempting to give man on Earth, this original Thought. This is what he needs at this time. This Thought can only be approached using pure language. It is not a common concept among the people of your planet. This is the reason for their difficulties. The Creator never imagined difficulties in His creation. They are the product of man’s erroneous thinking. We have said to you many times that meditation is necessary. Through this process of meditation, it is possible to know this Thought; we have called it love, but this can only be understood through meditation.
In an environment such as yours, meditation is of even greater importance than in an environment such as ours, for we have very, very little to overcome in our understanding of our fellow man. It is suggested, therefore, that through the process of daily meditation, you will develop an understanding of this Thought that created all of us.
Whereas Ra, in 6d, repeatedly states that there "are no errors", Hatonn and friends seems to believe this is so at this stage. My guess is that "too much" love together with the belief that you know the truth when you actually don't can easily lead to actions which cause exactly the effects that you wanted to prevent. Part of the learning experience to attain the wisdom needed to balance your love.