11-10-2011, 03:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2011, 03:37 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(11-10-2011, 02:55 PM)Wander Wrote: How would using it for "oblivion" be explained? It sounds to these channeled beings that cannabis is something harmful, how is that?
To start, please remember that these channeled beings (L/L Research particularly) urge us to ALWAYS use our own discernment. Dismiss any information you find which does not agree with your being. That being said, they do not necessarily say that cannabis is innately harmful. It has risks which may not apply to every user. I'll link the sessions at the end of this post.
As for oblivion, I interpret it as consistent use for escapism. I lived in a house full of potheads, and after a while of constant daily use, life not high became boring and unbearable, and if we could not get high then we were fiending and grouchy.
Also, even without constant use, if one uses it to forget about their problems instead of confronting them, then it would be oblivion.
Quote:Now I'm not saying that I'm using it on a daily basis, but I thought it could at least be a good tool as an alternative to (long) meditation.
I agree completely with godwide_void, I don't feel it is an alternative to deep meditation. I also feel like meditating sober is better for feeling spiritual energies and allowing them to flow and communicate with your being. L/L channeled entities would agree with that.
Quote:Every ancient society had a shaman. A person that traveled into other dimensions and perspectives to further evolve culture.
An important point here would be that shamans use substances like this ritualistically, and are also very adept at spiritual work, probably more adept than anyone you have met within our cultured society.
Here's a recent Q'uo session regarding marijuana. It is the second question asked near the middle of the transcript.
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0212.aspx
Quote:In general, my brother, if you want to obtain maximally useful results from your observations and your witness during incarnation, you are best served by a completely pure and this instrument would say “sober,” base. Every substance you ingest, every substance you drink, creates not just one, but several different effects within the body, and, as the one known as S has said, it is quite so that every seeker will have a different experience of apples or asparagus or marijuana. However, none of asparagus’s side effects impact the spiritual life whereas in the case of marijuana, its effect on the spiritual life is inconstant and untrustable.
The basic principle involved in this opinion is that principle which suggests that you will be able to open your mind, your body, and your spirit more and more as you become lit from within, as you become kindled by that spirit that yearns for the perfect devotion, the truly whole giving of the self to service. As you persist along this line of seeking the veil thins for you, little by little, in a way which is safe for you.
The difficulty that we see with the use of marijuana in the spiritual seeking is that it enables you to experience an environment for which you are not naturally prepared. Thusly, while the experience is a good one, perhaps, at the time, the side effects that come with the use of marijuana, mainly the damping of the energies that you would normally have in more abundance, create the sum total experience of a positive time that you could not fully use because it was artificially created, and the cumulative effects of the use of marijuana, which involve weariness and a lack of motivation.
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