10-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Carla Rueckert's time and energy are two precious resources not to be expended lightly, so I generally do not approach her with concerns which would take too much of either.
However in reading this thread, I noticed two questions that I thought a) Carla might enjoy answering and b) we would each benefit by that answer.
Please find the two questions below with Carla's responses to each:
(I think the questions were Questioners, so I will label them as such. If I am mistaken, please someone correct me.)
Carla Rueckert: Hey, B4 Forum –
In answer to your present questions on this thread, I would say that David and I tune differently. David tunes before every session. His tuning consists of a spoken statement he crafted. It is quite beautiful. It is said from memory, and does not vary, as far as I know. He has assured me that it is adequate.
My process is more spontaneous in that although I have protections, prayers and hymns I use every time, if I am not satisfied with my tuning at any point I will continue, doing whatever I feel is needed (praying, singing, etc.) without being concerned for time constraints, until I have achieved the best focus I know how to achieve. I also use a “gatekeeper” for one last check before entering the final stage of tuning and challenging. Mine is a much more elaborate system of tuning than David’s.
I believe – but am not sure – that he feels that it is not necessary for him to challenge his source, which he characterizes as his higher self. His reasoning on calling that guidance system Ra is that he feels he is a wanderer from the Ra social memory complex, and therefore his higher self is of Ra. David does not claim that the two sources are the same. He has said to me a couple of times in years past that he would not want to try for the source channeled through L/L Research – clearly, the contact was a punishing one, physically.
Carla Rueckert: One thing has been overlooked in this question, and that is that the channel does not add elements of protocol such as greetings and closings. The source does that, if it chooses to do so. If the channel/instrument is adding these elements artificially, it is meaningless since the instrument is diddling with the message received. That is a big no-no!
An element of my own channeling on which you may rely is that I follow the source’s offering completely, once I have determined to my satisfaction that the connection is appropriate. My opinions, hopefully, are laid to one side for the duration of the contact. In fact, I always pray that all concepts offered are the Creator’s and not my own. I would far rather maintain the integrity of my contact than answer anyone’s specific or fear-based questions.
So while you are perceptive in that the points of protocol you mention are definitely those which are characteristic of a good, positive channel, still, the only parts of the protocol within the control of the instrument are the tuning of the instrument and the group and the challenging of all spirits by the instrument before accepting contact. This is why I have worked so diligently over the years to develop my tuning and challenging techniques.
We tune the group as well as the channel here at L/L Research just before the session, usually by listening to an inspiring song and then saying the Lord’s Prayer, although we have been known to tune by Om-ing, singing as a group or telling jokes.
I would not recommend using the protocol of walking the circle in any other group except that one which we had during the Ra Contact, as it was developed very specifically to fit my biases and distortions. For instance, there is no sense in using incense, an opened Bible or a candle if those signals are not resonant for the instrument. We use no such artifacts in the conscious channeling I do presently, and have done continuously for 35 years.
To learn more about my tuning and challenging process, please go to Channeling Intensive Archive and click on sessions 3 and 4. These are the talks on tuning and challenging I gave when I was teaching an introductory channeling circle last year. I just repeated that teaching in a gathering of second-cycle channeling hopefuls this past weekend.
Thank you for your questions. Best of fortune with your concerns and much L/L - Carla
(PS from GLB: Lavazza, great reply earlier! I'd like to reply myself but fear I will not be able to do so in the near future.)
However in reading this thread, I noticed two questions that I thought a) Carla might enjoy answering and b) we would each benefit by that answer.
Please find the two questions below with Carla's responses to each:
(I think the questions were Questioners, so I will label them as such. If I am mistaken, please someone correct me.)
Questioner Wrote:My question is about how Carla's challenge relates to David's channeling of his spiritual guidance called Ra, but not necessarily the same Ra or same version/density/timeline of Ra as Carla channeled. As my question is based on Carla's work I'd really like to ask it here, but if I should take the question to David's forum then I'll do so.
Carla Rueckert: Hey, B4 Forum –
In answer to your present questions on this thread, I would say that David and I tune differently. David tunes before every session. His tuning consists of a spoken statement he crafted. It is quite beautiful. It is said from memory, and does not vary, as far as I know. He has assured me that it is adequate.
My process is more spontaneous in that although I have protections, prayers and hymns I use every time, if I am not satisfied with my tuning at any point I will continue, doing whatever I feel is needed (praying, singing, etc.) without being concerned for time constraints, until I have achieved the best focus I know how to achieve. I also use a “gatekeeper” for one last check before entering the final stage of tuning and challenging. Mine is a much more elaborate system of tuning than David’s.
I believe – but am not sure – that he feels that it is not necessary for him to challenge his source, which he characterizes as his higher self. His reasoning on calling that guidance system Ra is that he feels he is a wanderer from the Ra social memory complex, and therefore his higher self is of Ra. David does not claim that the two sources are the same. He has said to me a couple of times in years past that he would not want to try for the source channeled through L/L Research – clearly, the contact was a punishing one, physically.
Questioner Wrote:Here is what I wonder. Say I was to go to a session with channeling of a usually positive entity, with the opportunity for audience questions. Do I understand that it could it be a good idea to ask something like this:
In the Law of One material, Carla the channeler and Ra the message-bringer had some distinctive protocols to protect the integrity of the message. The channeller asked if the messenger would affirm the unconditional love of Christ consciousness, the highest spiritual good the channeller could imagine. The messenger started and ended each session with a greeting that referred to the qualities of the One Infinite Creator, such as light, love, and peace. The messenger began each response with a statement of the messenger's name. Would the current messenger be willing to use these same protocols to demonstrate clarity, accuracy, and a positive intention in this channeling?
Carla Rueckert: One thing has been overlooked in this question, and that is that the channel does not add elements of protocol such as greetings and closings. The source does that, if it chooses to do so. If the channel/instrument is adding these elements artificially, it is meaningless since the instrument is diddling with the message received. That is a big no-no!
An element of my own channeling on which you may rely is that I follow the source’s offering completely, once I have determined to my satisfaction that the connection is appropriate. My opinions, hopefully, are laid to one side for the duration of the contact. In fact, I always pray that all concepts offered are the Creator’s and not my own. I would far rather maintain the integrity of my contact than answer anyone’s specific or fear-based questions.
So while you are perceptive in that the points of protocol you mention are definitely those which are characteristic of a good, positive channel, still, the only parts of the protocol within the control of the instrument are the tuning of the instrument and the group and the challenging of all spirits by the instrument before accepting contact. This is why I have worked so diligently over the years to develop my tuning and challenging techniques.
We tune the group as well as the channel here at L/L Research just before the session, usually by listening to an inspiring song and then saying the Lord’s Prayer, although we have been known to tune by Om-ing, singing as a group or telling jokes.
I would not recommend using the protocol of walking the circle in any other group except that one which we had during the Ra Contact, as it was developed very specifically to fit my biases and distortions. For instance, there is no sense in using incense, an opened Bible or a candle if those signals are not resonant for the instrument. We use no such artifacts in the conscious channeling I do presently, and have done continuously for 35 years.
To learn more about my tuning and challenging process, please go to Channeling Intensive Archive and click on sessions 3 and 4. These are the talks on tuning and challenging I gave when I was teaching an introductory channeling circle last year. I just repeated that teaching in a gathering of second-cycle channeling hopefuls this past weekend.
Thank you for your questions. Best of fortune with your concerns and much L/L - Carla
(PS from GLB: Lavazza, great reply earlier! I'd like to reply myself but fear I will not be able to do so in the near future.)
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi