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    11-07-2009, 09:21 PM
    Sylverone, I am currently re-reading the Ra materials with special attention to the description of the polarity between STS and STO. I wrote a bit of an essay about all this and would like to share it with you.

    I would like to compare my interpretations of this material with yours. As you mentioned, you might well have not only 3 or 4 years of study in this lifetime, but a long history before that of studying this material. I believe that tremendous pain is not always necessary to awaken spiritual understanding, and it's certainly not to be sought out for that purpose. Ideally if it does occur, it is used as a spiritual catalyst.

    At first this seemed rather complicated to me, but I now see it in a way that provides my mind with a few simple pieces of mental scaffolding. The fundamental question is how we interact with others.

    The STS approach is to design a hierarchy, and have roles that could be described as higher or lower, based on control and a chain of command. This happens not only with others, but also within our own thoughts, emotions, mind: self-discipline, for the self, values some inner experiences higher than others.

    The STO approach is to grow a network, with a flexible and changing variety of ways to interact. As for the inner life, acceptance includes self-acceptance including emotions, thoughts, experiences that might be labeled as "lesser."

    Both polarities can be very efficient to accomplish tasks within one's own life, and with groups. "Stuck in the middle," neither controlling anything nor accepting that one can't control anything, is the worst place to be and ultimately makes a person sick and useless.

    There is a reason for the different approaches. This reason is that STO prefers to exclude "green ray" activity from its own experience. Green ray refers to an open-hearted acceptance of all, including one's self and others and all experiences, and an open-hearted sharing of all of one's self. In this equality, there could not be positions "above" or "below." Obviously if this is taken to the ultimate extent, there would be such equality that no hierarchy could survive. I really don't see how this could be "equal" in the sense you describe.

    The Ra material describes a primal Unity, which desires to experience Diversity and Love. The primary creations include Light and Free Will. Beyond a few basic parameters, what we do with the resources we receive is up to us.

    Quote:Why seek separation when we are already separate? Why not conquer/assimilate/program all "others", in a form of unbalanced unity? Perhaps it is certain inherant flaws of this notion that requisite the need to eventually become STO?

    Ultimately, green-ray acceptance will be needed for further spiritual evolution. Until then, the great power of hierarchies is also their great weakness: the rigidity of structure and behavior. When an earthquake or storm comes, sometimes a building with a flexible frame, or even trees that are not interlocked, can ride it out. Impressive edifices and precision-gridded structures can collapse from the shock.

    Quote:What if negative entities HAVE achieved true Unification within the Infinite Logos, but when it occurs, it is invisible to all but Unity

    As I see it, because unity requires the inclusion of all things, including "green ray" energy. Hierarchy involves the limitation and exclusion of some things. There is no way to reach unity by rejecting some ingredients of unity.

    Quote:If you are not completely aware of this already, then consider that to make a complaint, you must first believe the one to whom you complain to be "greater", or at least "separate". Ultimately, it seems that you are "blaming yourself", in an ,shall we say, Infinitely Roundabout fashion!
    That is a clever approach. Some people have used it to conclude that human will is greater than any concept of God. These people probably aren't fans of the Law of One.

    I see that Ra thinks an understanding of the STS/STO choice as primary at this time, because polarization on one side or the other is what leads to the capacity for Harvest. There actually is a lot of material on the subject. I'm not sure why you said there's not much material about this.

    Quote:Also, a personal note; for me there is at least one thing in this Universe which must absolutely be taken on faith. This one point of faith between me and the Creator is that I will never be absolutely destroyed or imprisoned.
    I see that as something greatly respected in the Law of One material. If my understanding about STO as hierarchy is correct, you would ultimately reject any hierarchy you don't control, but you would be willing to be in a hierarchy that controls or manipulates or rejects someone else. This would cause a contradiction between the rules applied by you for you, and for others, wouldn't it?

    Quote:what if a being became so strongly STS that their "black-hole" nature

    While I appreciate the metaphor, I think this contradicts what Ra had to say about black holes as a condensation of love.

    Do my interpretations here make sense? How do they relate to your interpretations?

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    STS, trying to understand - by Lavazza - 10-15-2009, 12:48 PM
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