11-09-2009, 10:24 PM
I read the Book V, Fragment 3 section and would like to add my observations.
First, I totally agree with Jim and Carla that exploration of conspiracy theories can be a distraction from one's own spiritual evolution. I also agree that even if this excerpt's material is accurate, is is pretty much useless to know it. There is so much else that Ra has to say about service-to-self manipulators that we should not be surprised if there are some covertly manipulating science and government matters for their own schemes.
Second, look more closely at exactly what Ra claims in this session. If one accepts the fundamental premises of the Ra contact at all, then it really shouldn't be that hard to accept this material.
1. "Flying saucer" technologies process electromagnetic radiation. It can be used for transportation, weaponry, and peaceful civilian uses. Weapons applications include disruption of conscious thought processes, and disruption of weather patterns. As far as transportation goes, the technologies can be used to create unmanned, remotely operated vehicles.
2. When extremely advanced technology winds up in the hands of national security forces, military and political leaders tend to keep it secret so it can be a potential surprise weapon and not be known by enemies.
3. Tesla discovered some of this technology and documented his findings. After Tesla's death, some of his documents were seized by U.S. national security forces. There is an ongoing U.S. secret program with this technology.
4. Some of this technology was revealed by channeled sources, and also wound up in the hands of national security forces, this time in Russia.
5. The U.S. program, as of the early 1980's, had about 500 devices and about 1,500 people worldwide. Devices were manufactured inside and outside the U.S. Operations were carried out around the world and also at the moon. Note that Ra didn't specifically say since Don didn't ask, but since these operations included remote controlled devices, the moon operation could well have been unmanned and operated by technicians on the Earth.
6. If the technology was known to most of humanity, it could have far-reaching consequences to improve life in many ways.
I think that pretty much covers it.
Now I've already described my tremendous admiration for Don Elkins, but in this case - and it's the only situation I've found to say this - I think his incredulity was unnecessary.
All of point 1 seems like it would have already been familiar, or a natural next step, from Elkins's existing research as reported in Secrets, or from earlier discussions with Ra. Point 6 is a natural corollary.
Point 2 has been repeatedly proven throughout history, without any need to refer to conspiracy theories.
For point 3, Tesla was discussed more by Ra in later sessions But Tesla was already well known as one of the most advanced and unusual researchers in human history regarding electromagnetic phenomena and devices. Given how Einstein's work led to the Manhattan Project, it shouldn't be a surprise to learn of Tesla's work also used in secret government research.
For point 4: If channeled sources are related to UFO's, and their adventures through history trying to share helpful information with people sometimes didn't work out; then it shouldn't be a surprise to learn of channeled UFO sources sharing UFO technology information that didn't get used helpfully by people.
With multiple operations sites, at least two manufacturing facilities, and presumably some administration capacity, there may be no more than a few dozen people involved with each facility or site. With any secret program, a "need to know" provision is most likely. Each location, therefore, would likely have staff who thought they had the entire program (except for a few coordinators at the top of the pyramid).
These people would likely believe that their jobs involved technology from advanced human scientists, and that the protection of their country depended on the integrity of the program's secrecy.
There are so many admitted, documented examples of secret government programs that it shouldn't be hard to believe national security secrets can be kept well. Look at the Manhattan Project, the Navajo Code Talkers, the Skunk Works, the British breaking of the Enigma code, for that matter the leadup to the American revolution. On and on there is proof that military and political secrets are often kept close for a long time.
I do think it's unlikely that a secret program of manned moon operations could have happened and been sustained without discovery. I also think it's unlikely that visible, tangible, unmanned moon operations could have been covertly carried on all these years.
But remember the descriptions of the UFO phenomenon involving selective visibility based on expectations of observers, and also involving travel jumping from one space/time location to another without travel through intervening space. Together, these could imply that moon operations involve a small number of dedicated people who remotely control teleportation technology, which if seen by bystanders will be explained away spontaneously by the bystander's minds as unbelievable non-evidence.
As I see it, faith in Ra's reports of secret UFO research is not at all necessary. It is possible that the connection was detuned and the information unreliable. But I don't see any good reasons to reject these claims out of hand, or to say that they make the Ra material much harder to believe.
First, I totally agree with Jim and Carla that exploration of conspiracy theories can be a distraction from one's own spiritual evolution. I also agree that even if this excerpt's material is accurate, is is pretty much useless to know it. There is so much else that Ra has to say about service-to-self manipulators that we should not be surprised if there are some covertly manipulating science and government matters for their own schemes.
Second, look more closely at exactly what Ra claims in this session. If one accepts the fundamental premises of the Ra contact at all, then it really shouldn't be that hard to accept this material.
1. "Flying saucer" technologies process electromagnetic radiation. It can be used for transportation, weaponry, and peaceful civilian uses. Weapons applications include disruption of conscious thought processes, and disruption of weather patterns. As far as transportation goes, the technologies can be used to create unmanned, remotely operated vehicles.
2. When extremely advanced technology winds up in the hands of national security forces, military and political leaders tend to keep it secret so it can be a potential surprise weapon and not be known by enemies.
3. Tesla discovered some of this technology and documented his findings. After Tesla's death, some of his documents were seized by U.S. national security forces. There is an ongoing U.S. secret program with this technology.
4. Some of this technology was revealed by channeled sources, and also wound up in the hands of national security forces, this time in Russia.
5. The U.S. program, as of the early 1980's, had about 500 devices and about 1,500 people worldwide. Devices were manufactured inside and outside the U.S. Operations were carried out around the world and also at the moon. Note that Ra didn't specifically say since Don didn't ask, but since these operations included remote controlled devices, the moon operation could well have been unmanned and operated by technicians on the Earth.
6. If the technology was known to most of humanity, it could have far-reaching consequences to improve life in many ways.
I think that pretty much covers it.
Now I've already described my tremendous admiration for Don Elkins, but in this case - and it's the only situation I've found to say this - I think his incredulity was unnecessary.
All of point 1 seems like it would have already been familiar, or a natural next step, from Elkins's existing research as reported in Secrets, or from earlier discussions with Ra. Point 6 is a natural corollary.
Point 2 has been repeatedly proven throughout history, without any need to refer to conspiracy theories.
For point 3, Tesla was discussed more by Ra in later sessions But Tesla was already well known as one of the most advanced and unusual researchers in human history regarding electromagnetic phenomena and devices. Given how Einstein's work led to the Manhattan Project, it shouldn't be a surprise to learn of Tesla's work also used in secret government research.
For point 4: If channeled sources are related to UFO's, and their adventures through history trying to share helpful information with people sometimes didn't work out; then it shouldn't be a surprise to learn of channeled UFO sources sharing UFO technology information that didn't get used helpfully by people.
With multiple operations sites, at least two manufacturing facilities, and presumably some administration capacity, there may be no more than a few dozen people involved with each facility or site. With any secret program, a "need to know" provision is most likely. Each location, therefore, would likely have staff who thought they had the entire program (except for a few coordinators at the top of the pyramid).
These people would likely believe that their jobs involved technology from advanced human scientists, and that the protection of their country depended on the integrity of the program's secrecy.
There are so many admitted, documented examples of secret government programs that it shouldn't be hard to believe national security secrets can be kept well. Look at the Manhattan Project, the Navajo Code Talkers, the Skunk Works, the British breaking of the Enigma code, for that matter the leadup to the American revolution. On and on there is proof that military and political secrets are often kept close for a long time.
I do think it's unlikely that a secret program of manned moon operations could have happened and been sustained without discovery. I also think it's unlikely that visible, tangible, unmanned moon operations could have been covertly carried on all these years.
But remember the descriptions of the UFO phenomenon involving selective visibility based on expectations of observers, and also involving travel jumping from one space/time location to another without travel through intervening space. Together, these could imply that moon operations involve a small number of dedicated people who remotely control teleportation technology, which if seen by bystanders will be explained away spontaneously by the bystander's minds as unbelievable non-evidence.
As I see it, faith in Ra's reports of secret UFO research is not at all necessary. It is possible that the connection was detuned and the information unreliable. But I don't see any good reasons to reject these claims out of hand, or to say that they make the Ra material much harder to believe.