Winter Solstice of 2011/ Harvest approaching?

[Namaste]

My apologies also then, I'm lost as to what we're talking about :¬)

I've been responding to your questions regarding my own understandings. Have I offended you somehow?

But in a more pragmatic sense, this has done little to change the perspective of those who disagree with these teachings. For those who have already made up their minds, they tend to "take what resonates" by cherry-picking quotes which support their views, even if the greater context of the transcript(s) in question do(es) not. This makes it exceedingly difficult to state a case based upon quotes from the material, and in actuality, tends to piss more people off than it enlightens, and bears little fruit where spiritual purposes are concerned.

Likewise brother, we all do it. I have chosen not to cherry pick from non-Ra sources relating to the ascension process, which is what you have yourself done. All fo the Ra quotes provided point to death as the gateway, and of 3D and 4D being incompatible.

The key thing is, I'm open to anything different. If 2012 passes and I can fly - brilliant. I'm just not going to plan for it, rather look ahead with open positive expectation. I'm not trying to force people to believe what I do either, rather offer some feedback regarding the Ra Material. I'm simply stating that Ra does not mention ascension within this 3D incarnation.