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    01-07-2012, 08:52 PM (This post was last modified: 01-07-2012, 08:54 PM by SomaticDreams.)
    (06-07-2011, 08:02 PM)vbaba Wrote: "Desire is the cause of suffering"? Desire is a motivator! If the Creator did not desire to experience "experience" in the Material Universe, the Social Memory Complexes would not have been formed, the offspring of the Social Memory Complexes, the Spirits would not have been fragmented downward into matter, and the Spirits would not have fragmented into Souls who then fragmented downward into matter the Ego/Personalities (us) so that we could experience experience for our One Infinite Creator. We would not be here if the Creator lacked Desire!

    What causes suffering is Value Judging other selves and Resistance to an unwanted reality. Reality is something that IS and cannot be changed at any given moment in time. Resistance to What Is is the root of suffering! And that includes Resisting Desire!

    Buddhism does not believe in a 'creator'. Buddhism is first, and foremost concerned with ending suffering in the world created by desire.

    You say that the creator must of have 'desire' in order for the universe to exist, but if the creator is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then there is nothing left to be desired. Desire arises out of a 'lack' of something.

    Desire can be a motivator, but it does not follow that the only motivator is desire. Love and compassion can be motivations for existence, and this is what Buddhism ascribes to. Indeed, is God not unconditional love? Was the universe not created out of unconditional love, and not desire? The natural, pure, open awareness (Buddha nature) all beings have, is already-always blissful, joyous and infinite. All beings have access to this consciousness, but one simply observe phenomena in this open awareness in order to experience the 'truth'. Recognizing the emptiness of self, one comes to gain a great, unconditional love and compassion for all beings (recognition of oneness, of the 'self'-'other-self').

    The root of your illusion is the self- you are creating a rationalization of what has composed these 'illusions' of social memory complexes, egos, and divinities. In a sense, this is true- that there is an illusion of self, and other-self. This in Buddhism is part of the relative truth, which leads to the ultimate truth, of the emptiness of all forms.

    When westerners read 'emptiness' they envision nothingness- but this is not at all what is meant by the term Sunyata. This is a point of much misunderstanding to those new to Buddhism. Emptiness is the recognition that everything arises out of the void, and is impermanent. Thoughts, objects, people, all things. They depend on this void to exist, they are co-created, or co-dependent. This is the idea of interdependent arising. As soon as something is arisen, it necessarily needs it's anti-thesis in order to 'become' into being. This is also the case with existence- there must be non-existence and existence for either to exist. This concept corresponds with much of the channeled material from Ra and Q'uo (if you are inclined to favor their words over others).

    To address your last two points about 'resistance', Buddhists do not ascribe to 'resisting' anything. Buddhism is about recognizing the nature of mind through awareness. This awareness is gentle, naked and infinitely vast. It is so close to many people they cannot see it, because they go looking 'out there' or 'in here' for it, when it is already 'here'. It is what is doing the seeking (consciousness).

    I hope this clears up any misunderstanding of the teachings of the Dharma. I have practiced and studied Buddhism for most of my life ('seriously' for the past 8 years, before then I was dabbling around).

    If you have any questions to my response, please feel free to ask for clarification.

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    2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by turtledude23 - 04-20-2011, 12:40 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by norral - 04-20-2011, 01:06 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by turtledude23 - 04-20-2011, 10:24 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Peregrinus - 05-07-2011, 12:14 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by vbaba - 06-07-2011, 08:02 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-07-2012, 08:52 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Tenet Nosce - 07-15-2011, 02:51 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Etude in B Minor - 04-20-2011, 11:29 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Ens Entium - 04-21-2011, 06:46 PM
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    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 05-30-2011, 12:02 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by turtledude23 - 05-31-2011, 11:27 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by kycahi - 06-01-2011, 11:56 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 06-23-2011, 05:36 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Tenet Nosce - 07-15-2011, 01:09 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by kycahi - 06-24-2011, 03:48 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 06-24-2011, 08:02 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Oceania - 06-25-2011, 12:17 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 07-18-2011, 04:03 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Tenet Nosce - 07-18-2011, 11:37 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 07-18-2011, 05:31 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by kycahi - 07-18-2011, 01:32 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Tenet Nosce - 07-19-2011, 09:30 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Nyu - 07-18-2011, 03:43 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-07-2012, 10:03 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by Peregrinus - 01-07-2012, 11:41 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-08-2012, 09:19 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-08-2012, 09:52 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-08-2012, 10:06 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-08-2012, 08:24 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-08-2012, 10:23 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-08-2012, 10:48 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-08-2012, 11:03 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-08-2012, 11:30 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-08-2012, 11:53 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-09-2012, 08:58 PM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-09-2012, 09:52 PM
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    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by yossarian - 01-10-2012, 07:50 AM
    RE: 2011.04.02 - Siddhartha Buddha - by SomaticDreams - 01-10-2012, 12:29 PM
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