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    01-28-2012, 01:33 AM
    Welcome Victor James!

    (01-28-2012, 12:44 AM)Victorjames Wrote: Wow what an interesting web site.

    yes indeed it is Smile

    Quote:My understanding/experience of what we are being told by Ra is true we are each our own Creator, free will. So whatever reality you create is true. It is your truth as they say.

    Free Will reigns paramount on planet earth. It is the thing that is preserved at all costs. Even to the extent of some quite vicious outcomes (for eg, one is free to drink oneself to death over 2 decades if one so pleases. God will not 'step in' to stop your choice of experience)

    Quote:So consciousness becomes a reality to each of us as we deem it to be. So my understanding is that your free will creates your own consciousness and then it becomes your reality. So in my experience consciousness and energy creates your own realty.

    we are agreed thus far.

    Quote:One cannot know truth unless one experiences that truth otherwise it is simply a philosophy. So I would suggest that all thoughts are truth because we create our own truth. So everyone is right.

    there are some truths that endure over a longer period of time. In the Law of One, we are seeking the 'eternal truths' rather than the more transient, temporary ones. Eternal truths are true for all time; transient truths, the truths we most commonly associate with 'facts', 'theorems', 'law of physics' - these are more temporary truths, parameters of the current experience.

    Quote:I have no knowledge of the colours that Ra speaks of but would assume it is right because I would suggest that most of us do not see the colours, my assumption only.

    they are the simple colors of the rainbow, one of the most basic divisions of 7. Indigo ray is one that attracts many people because it holds the promise of great power. Green ray has to do with the heart, and love.

    Quote:It goes back to what many teachers tell us that you are not your body.

    it might be fairer to say that we ARE our body, but we are also MUCH MORE.

    Quote:Most of the comments I have read on this web site would suggest that they come from a body/mind consciousness but no spirit. What I call a world consciousness. If you think like a human you can only have a human experience. If you think like a body/mind/spirit then you will have a body/mind/spirit experience. My experience is getting to the spirit side of who I really am.

    yes, we all seek the spirit, that place of ineffability.


    Quote:In my experience if you conquer your mind then you conquer your self, you become sovereign.

    so the Buddha once said too BigSmile

    Quote:The world controls most of our minds through all of the, what we call new technologies, TV, movies,newspaper,government, commercialism, etc., and this is not wrong its just what is so but what might be important is for us to wake up to this control to make sure no one controls you so then you can choose for yourself.

    indeed. It is an elaborate form of programming, from cradle to grave.


    Quote:Some of it maybe extremely frustrating but it may go back to the positive/negative acceptance. Accepting both sides of the coin as just being what is so.

    I see us human beings as God Consciousness that has shattered into a billion billion pieces, and we are all wending our way back to Unity. Some take the left hand path, others the right. We all get there eventually Tongue


    Quote:Life is a wonderful gift. I may suggest that even Ra controls most of you because you may not be looking within because you may still be looking without.

    if you treat the Ra material like a bible, yes, you just become a parrot. People grow tired of parrots Smile We enjoy sharing diverse opinions on this forum, and no matter how hard you try, it is hard to suppress one's natural personality. Many viewpoints come through. One example would be the 'Harvest' and what might happen at the end of this year. Much contention.

    Ra recommends inward seeking via quiet meditation.

    Quote:Being sovereign in mind in this world is considered very difficult because if you believe something that is not of this world then you have a 99 % change of not believing it totally and even if you think you believe it you do not believe it because its already part of who you are. Your DNA is already programmed. You must learn to reprogram if you wish.

    I had direct experience of this growing up in a relatively poor family with relatively conventional mindsets. I 'broke out of it' with a fair bit of resistance.


    Quote:Your world around you will convince you that you are maybe crazy because you are not of this world but in this world. A challenge for sure! Its kind of like when someone leaves their religion, their culture, that that religion, that culture wants to reel you back in.

    yes, for a while, my parents thought I had become possessed while on an overseas trip!

    Quote:I love conversation because it teaches knowledge, but its only knowledge if you leave your judgment out of the conversation otherwise it might simply be gossip. Your judgment is human , this is what we do.

    yes, we are having a deep conversation right here!

    Quote:I have been told that I have a very deep mind.If you read my words then you must not assume what my words mean you must feel my words to be your experience as you would need Ra's words to be your experience as well. You must feel Ra's words also to gain your experience.

    put everything to the test Brother!

    Quote:If you cannot love unconditionally all of those around you then you are caught up in the mind/body.

    that is quite a large step to make.

    Quote:Its all about change, if you can't or won't change , then all stays the same in your world and there is nothing wrong. There is no wrong and there is no right, there is just what is so.

    we are free to evolve at the speed we want to. No race.

    Quote:We are pure consciousness awareness.

    I would definitely like to reach that state, and hold it. I have had glimpses of it for the briefest of moments.

    Quote:I send my unconditional love to you all.
    Victorjames

    thanks for the convo.

    yours sincerely,

    plenum, Australia
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    From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:17 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-27-2011, 06:31 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-27-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 05:12 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 11:39 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 12:34 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 12:39 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-28-2011, 01:49 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 02:00 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-28-2011, 03:27 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-29-2011, 06:54 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 02:07 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 08:03 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 09:27 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011, 03:06 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 03:28 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-30-2011, 04:28 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 07:59 PM
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    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-28-2011, 08:35 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by unity100 - 01-30-2011, 03:23 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 01-31-2011, 03:33 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Peregrinus - 01-31-2011, 07:00 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Confused - 02-01-2011, 12:23 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-27-2012, 11:36 PM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by apeiron - 01-28-2012, 12:10 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Victorjames - 01-28-2012, 12:44 AM
    RE: From seeker to spiritual adept - by Plenum - 01-28-2012, 01:33 AM

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