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    Thread: Channeling


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    01-17-2009, 12:39 AM
    (01-08-2009, 11:02 PM)Lavazza Wrote: My question actually stems from something I read by David Wilcock, where he was making the argument about the transition from 3rd to 4th density as being instantaneous (instead of gradual). He was addressing the fact that that idea was dismissed in the Q'uo sessions, and his response was that Carla herself has always been against the notion of such a fast shift.

    First, let me apologize for how late this response is to the quoted statement and I know their has been several very good replies already. However, it was just one of those things that struck me at the time and this is the first opportunity I have had to get back to posting a comment.

    Every time I encounter these types of questions I am reminded of the admonishments that our brothers who walk the Red Road give in these kinds of situations. The elders wonderfully remind all that if take and place an object in the middle of a circle of observers and ask each to describe the object you will get as many different descriptions as there are people in the circle. Each person is not incorrect as they readily describe exactly what they see. It is just that they cannot see the whole picture. If one of the members of the circle were to take only their view and try to expand it into a description of the whole then the object they would describe would not be the object in the center of the circle.

    What does this have to do with the issue of the view of DW and the view of Q'uo only that perhaps one or both are viewing the event from a different perspective. If one considers that what may be happening in 2012 is merely the completion of a spiraling increase in consciousness energy then, yes, one may be able to project out and see an "instantaneous" event. An influx of increased energy to elevate consciousness could definitely happen in what would appear to be a sudden event. Afterwards there would be noticeable increases in the application of higher levels of consciousness if one were able to be aware of what to observe. Therefore, DW could be right, they just might be some event in 2012 that could be considered to be a sudden event.

    On the other hand, if you were expecting there was to be some kind of sudden disappearance of the 3D physical body and the sudden engagement of a 4D energetic body, for those who are SG fans similar to the elevation of the ancients or Wraiths, then no according to Ra and other reliable sources that will not happen. RA clearly states that the only way to be harvested from 3D to 4D is for a consciousness to experience what we refer to as death. I believe I recall Ra also stating that it would take from 100 to 700 years before the physical planet would be fully populated by 4D entities.

    If you consider that at some point in the progression there has to come the time when no further consciousnesses seeking harvestability in 3D would be allowed to incarnate. Has that point been reached? Based on "reading between the lines" I don't think so. RA did state that there were SOME who were incarnating with dual activation but that implies that others were incarnating with simple 3D activation.

    The only way to know for sure that I can see would be to use a method similar to what Don used--make a statement, then ask if it is correct and if not would the answerer please expound on what portions were not correct. An example, the marker of 2012 is the point in which inflowing energy becomes capable of generating and maintaining 4D consciousness is achieved. The Harvest and harvestability is related but separate from this marker. Is this statement correct and if not, would you please expound on what portion of it is incorrect.

    So to me the what I find as being various different opinions of the importance of 2012 is nothing more than merely the vantage point from which they are viewing the object in the center of the circle. One last small tidbit, when I had the honor and pleasure of attending a small gathering with Don Alejandro, he emphasized several times that too much is being made of the 2012 date. As a 13th generation Maya elder he stated that we should be more concerned with learning to live as one than whether a particular date has importance or not.

    Just wanted to share a view from a different position in the circle.

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    Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-08-2009, 03:20 AM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-08-2009, 10:13 AM
    RE: Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-08-2009, 11:02 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-08-2009, 11:20 PM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-09-2009, 03:16 AM
    RE: Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-09-2009, 05:04 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-09-2009, 06:33 PM
    RE: Channeling - by sos - 01-13-2009, 02:10 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-13-2009, 06:42 PM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-16-2009, 03:20 AM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-16-2009, 03:46 AM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-16-2009, 05:14 AM
    RE: Channeling - by fairyfarmgirl - 01-16-2009, 04:13 PM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-16-2009, 05:34 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-16-2009, 05:54 PM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-16-2009, 06:38 PM
    RE: Channeling - by BrotherAsa - 01-17-2009, 01:25 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-17-2009, 01:34 PM
    RE: Channeling - by BrotherAsa - 01-17-2009, 12:39 AM
    RE: Channeling - by Richard - 01-11-2009, 09:38 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-11-2009, 11:25 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-11-2009, 11:41 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-13-2009, 04:10 AM
    RE: Channeling - by Soulman - 01-16-2009, 11:12 AM
    Harvesting and living in a 4D world - by 3D Sunset - 01-16-2009, 02:42 PM
    RE: Harvesting and living in a 4D world - by bring4th_steve - 01-16-2009, 03:47 PM
    RE: Harvesting and living in a 4D world - by irpsit - 01-24-2009, 01:12 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-17-2009, 07:45 PM
    RE: Channeling - by bring4th_steve - 01-17-2009, 07:52 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Monica - 01-17-2009, 08:36 PM
    RE: Channeling - by Lavazza - 01-25-2009, 05:18 PM

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