02-23-2012, 06:26 AM
Monica, I've been thinking about what you said here...
...and other, similar, statements, but I quote only the above, in order to make this post shorter.
Firstly, I want to say that I enjoyed reading about by your seemingly undoubtful and easy embrace of your memories in regards to different situations in your current life, how you were seeking for the answers through conscious meditation, and when receiving these memories accepted them so seemingly easy as such. I have difficulties with that, and yet all my memories come by themselves. I do not ask for them. Only those that kind of "have always been there" and come with some kind of knowingness, I accept as "unmistakenbly", because when I doubt memories which are "unmistakenbly", it feels like swearing in the church, or that I step on something sacred, therefore I do not do that in those cases which I term as "unmistakable". So I really did enjoy your view in this.
What I want to add to the above quote, and the similar ones in your posts, is just another aspect, which comes from my personal understanding and reflecting on this topic.
The memories that come up on the surface of the self, when trying to see/understand a particular difficulty involving another self, does not necessarily have to be "true" as in the sense that it has really happened. They can simply represent a vivid image involving strong emotions, which involves lessons you (general "you", not you personally) are trying to learn. I came to this understanding when reviewing my current life. I have this person in my life, who has hurted me in many ways, for many years, and on both physical and mental level. Why choose something like that for the self? The answer which resonates with me, is that perhaps I wasn't Jesus in my previous lives.
I could not understand, forgive and send love/light to people who have hurted me in previous incarnations, and/or understand/forgive/send love/light to the situation itself. So what happened is that the experiences that I've been through closed my heart. Now, when we die, if being of senior vibration, we may forgive and understand everything, but we may still think that we may need further experience/s, in order to find profound understanding and love for all the aspects of the Creation/Creator, especially those of traumatic experiences/incarnations. You were into this topic yourself a little bit, when mentioning war in your post to Gary. So it perhaps not only another self that you need to understand, but also the situation itself. And so we plan our incarnation very carefully, giving ourselves gifts and abilities to aid that understanding, but at the same time putting ourselves through a very traumatic experience, again.
What I mean is that, it perhaps may have passed many, many years, like thousand/s, between the incarnation that we experienced that did not bring profound understanding, and finally finding of the right conditions and right circumstances to learn that particular lesson. And what I mean further, is that when we are so carefully planning that, we perhaps don't have the same entities around us anymore, or as they were back then. Maybe these entities that hurted you last time, evolved, or in some other way moved forward, and do not wish to hurt other selves anymore. *But* you still have a need for learning a particular lesson. So what I am trying to say in this very wordy way, is that sometimes memories may not be "real", meaning that it didn't happen in the way that you think it did, but perhaps involved other people etc, but it is presented in that way of your unconscious/deeper/veiled mind, or Higher Self, in order to learn the lesson itself.
Another thing that I am trying to add, is that, sometimes, it is the experience itself that needs to be accepted too, as a valid part of the Creation/Creator, forgiven and understood, exactly as it is done in the cases with other selves. That one is attempting to see the acceptance/forgiveness of *all* experiences, as being a valid part of the Creation/Creator.
With that said, I also like Azrael's understanding of it. To embrace everything as it comes into your mind, and not put so much importance on what has been "real" or not.
(02-22-2012, 02:31 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Here is the key for me: This particular memory surfaced when I was searching for answers regarding a person in my life. It hit me very hard, and was very emotionally intense. But the whole point of it was forgiveness and healing. By confronting what had happened before, I was able to forgive that person and break the cycle.
...and other, similar, statements, but I quote only the above, in order to make this post shorter.
Firstly, I want to say that I enjoyed reading about by your seemingly undoubtful and easy embrace of your memories in regards to different situations in your current life, how you were seeking for the answers through conscious meditation, and when receiving these memories accepted them so seemingly easy as such. I have difficulties with that, and yet all my memories come by themselves. I do not ask for them. Only those that kind of "have always been there" and come with some kind of knowingness, I accept as "unmistakenbly", because when I doubt memories which are "unmistakenbly", it feels like swearing in the church, or that I step on something sacred, therefore I do not do that in those cases which I term as "unmistakable". So I really did enjoy your view in this.
What I want to add to the above quote, and the similar ones in your posts, is just another aspect, which comes from my personal understanding and reflecting on this topic.
The memories that come up on the surface of the self, when trying to see/understand a particular difficulty involving another self, does not necessarily have to be "true" as in the sense that it has really happened. They can simply represent a vivid image involving strong emotions, which involves lessons you (general "you", not you personally) are trying to learn. I came to this understanding when reviewing my current life. I have this person in my life, who has hurted me in many ways, for many years, and on both physical and mental level. Why choose something like that for the self? The answer which resonates with me, is that perhaps I wasn't Jesus in my previous lives.
I could not understand, forgive and send love/light to people who have hurted me in previous incarnations, and/or understand/forgive/send love/light to the situation itself. So what happened is that the experiences that I've been through closed my heart. Now, when we die, if being of senior vibration, we may forgive and understand everything, but we may still think that we may need further experience/s, in order to find profound understanding and love for all the aspects of the Creation/Creator, especially those of traumatic experiences/incarnations. You were into this topic yourself a little bit, when mentioning war in your post to Gary. So it perhaps not only another self that you need to understand, but also the situation itself. And so we plan our incarnation very carefully, giving ourselves gifts and abilities to aid that understanding, but at the same time putting ourselves through a very traumatic experience, again. What I mean is that, it perhaps may have passed many, many years, like thousand/s, between the incarnation that we experienced that did not bring profound understanding, and finally finding of the right conditions and right circumstances to learn that particular lesson. And what I mean further, is that when we are so carefully planning that, we perhaps don't have the same entities around us anymore, or as they were back then. Maybe these entities that hurted you last time, evolved, or in some other way moved forward, and do not wish to hurt other selves anymore. *But* you still have a need for learning a particular lesson. So what I am trying to say in this very wordy way, is that sometimes memories may not be "real", meaning that it didn't happen in the way that you think it did, but perhaps involved other people etc, but it is presented in that way of your unconscious/deeper/veiled mind, or Higher Self, in order to learn the lesson itself.
Another thing that I am trying to add, is that, sometimes, it is the experience itself that needs to be accepted too, as a valid part of the Creation/Creator, forgiven and understood, exactly as it is done in the cases with other selves. That one is attempting to see the acceptance/forgiveness of *all* experiences, as being a valid part of the Creation/Creator.
With that said, I also like Azrael's understanding of it. To embrace everything as it comes into your mind, and not put so much importance on what has been "real" or not.
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