(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: My background, here in this incarnation, is in many ways similar to that of David Icke, although I am not in the public eye.
Ah! That explains a lot!
A few years ago, when I discovered David Icke, Alex Jones, etc. I got really into it for awhile...until I realized that the deeper I dug, the deeper the rabbit hole went!
That's not to say that Icke, Jones et al aren't right about many things. But, for me personally, it just wasn't something I wanted to focus on. I totally respect your path, and I know everyone else here does too! But, perhaps this excerpt from Q'uo might explain why the machinations of the power elite don't seem quite as relevant to everyone...we all have varying degrees of interest in that sort of thing, depending on our choices.
http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=68
Quote:There is a point early in your third density at which it was observed that the harvest of third density upon planet Earth was far behind schedule and indeed was not developing at all well. It was seen that the introduction of entities from other planets, and further introduction of changes within some of the templates improving upon the human genome, created unforeseen consequences that deepened the power of entities to use free will without the spiritual ability to see where that free will power was headed.
Another consequence was the enhanced ability to amuse and enchant the self by means of stories of power and empire. The culture as a whole, then, by its use of free will, had moved into a situation that concerned the guardians of this planet enough that it created for this planet a time lateral, a kind of track parallel to the main track of time and space as it is naturally developing in your physical environment.
You have never experienced life in your totally natural physical environment because you have been on a time lateral in quarantine for thousands of years. It was hoped, by quarantining the planet from further outside influences of any kind, that the free will of the body of the tribe of humankind would gather itself and would begin to address realizations of how ethical choices might be made in a way that progressed from the basic feeling that, when threatened, the proper response was likely to be violent, for that got the job done—and right quickly.
Consequently, riding upon this time lateral as you have, you have experienced repeated waves of empire as they have flourished and fallen only to see another empire rise and fall and another and another. If you look at your outer environment you may see these forces at work even now, moving in a repetitive manner, satisfying that portion of the tribe of humankind’s deeper mind which is used to these energies and feels comfortable with them, not because they are good but because they are what planet Earth is all about.
The breaking forth of new life into this dark world is a common occurrence because the light cannot be put out by darkness. And person after person after person has moments of brilliant insight in which they see that responding to violence with violence is not a wise move.
More and more of your entities are investing time, talent and treasure in finding different responses to the surrounding darkness based not upon the darkness itself but upon the light that comes from within the darkness and which the darkness cannot extinguish. Entities focus upon that first candle of light. And that tiny illumination illumines more. And then that illumines more. And a process of lightening the consciousness of yourself begins.
The time is coming and indeed is nigh at hand when something you might call a tipping point is imminent. And indeed it stands before you at this time. What is that tipping point? That tipping point is a straw vote, shall we say, an informal poll, if you will, of the tribes of humankind, to see if the majority of entities want to separate themselves forever from any path except violence or if they want to progress into fourth density and beyond.
There are entities from fifth density on the service-to-self path that are attempting a coup, shall we say, of this train of humankind running along this parallel time track. They would like it not to rejoin the main track. The guardians of this planet and those light givers within your planetary forces, both seen and unseen, have all moved heaven and Earth, literally, to create a slowing of the forces of time so that every possible instant may be given to the development of planet Earth’s human population to the point where the vote of the straw poll is for service to others and not for service to self; for radiance, peace and harmony rather than contraction, war and hostility as a background to the everyday life.
We are very hopeful. If that last moment were this very day, the straw poll indicates that your planet will rejoin the typical, normal progression of space/time. What the negative entities would like to do is...
(read the rest - it's excellent!)
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: The first area of work was that of Polarity Integration, whereby the dark is accepted as part of the Self thus retrieving the various fragments or aspects and reuniting them with the Higher Self or Oversoul.
I've done some soul retrieval work so I think I understand what you're referring to. I think most of us are doing some sort of reintegrating of our various aspects, whether consciously or not. Just having to deal with conflicts with others tend to bring that stuff to the surface anyway! We are mirroring to one another and the shadows are being illuminated!
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: Regarding the Council of Nine I have no background in the occult or indeed any interest in methods of opening the higher Chakras for work whilst bypassing the green ray. The understanding given to me is that a permanent council of positively polarized entities from all reaches of this galaxy act as Guardians. They are responsible for maintaining the quarantine currently in place on earth. Their home is the higher densities of the planet Saturn. The Galactic Federation, to whom the council belongs watch over all densities of this octave.
Here is what Ra says about it:
Quote:6.8 Questioner: Where is this Council located?
Ra: I am Ra. This Council is located in the octave, or eighth dimension, of the planet Saturn, taking its place in an area which you understand in third-dimension terms as the rings.
7.8 Questioner: At what point would this calling be great enough for you to come openly among the people on Earth? How many entities on Earth would have to call the Confederation?
Ra: I am Ra. We do not calculate the possibility of coming among your peoples by the numbers of calling, but by a consensus among an entire societal-memory complex which has become aware of the infinite consciousness of all things. This has been possible among your peoples only in isolated instances.
In the case wherein a social memory complex which is a servant of the Creator sees this situation and has an idea for the appropriate aid which can only be done among your peoples, the social memory complex desiring this project lays it before the Council of Saturn. If it is approved, quarantine is lifted.
7.9 Questioner: I have a question about that Council. Who are the members, and how does the Council function?
Ra: I am Ra. The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.
In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called Guardians.
The Council operates by means of, what you would call, telepathic contact with the oneness or unity of the nine, the distortions blending harmoniously so that the Law of One prevails with ease. When a need for thought is present, the Council retains the distortion-complex of this need, balancing it as described, and then recommends what it considers as appropriate action. This includes: One, the duty of admitting social memory complexes to the Confederation; Two, offering aid to those who are unsure how to aid the social memory complex requesting aid in a way consonant with both the call, the Law, and the number of those calling (that is to say, sometimes the resistance of the call); Three, internal questions in the Council are determined.
These are the prominent duties of the Council. They are, if in any doubt, able to contact the twenty-four who then offer consensus/judgment/thinking to the Council. The Council then may reconsider any question.
7.10 Questioner: You mentioned the nine who sit on the Council. Is this “nine” the same nine as those mentioned in this book? (Questioner gestures to Uri.)
Ra: I am Ra. The Council of Nine has been retained in semi-undistorted form by two main sources, that known in your naming, as Mark and that known in your naming as Henry. In one case, the channel became the scribe. In the other, the channel was not the scribe. However, without the aid of the scribe, the energy would not have come to the channel.
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: Scientology is an earth based Orion Empire organisation. Hubbard channelled his information from negative sources, I see it as their “take” on the LOO but obviously with a STS bias.
I have a few acquaintances who are Scientologists and they seem pretty normal, but I also know a lot of people who would agree with you! Then again, I know some people who feel that way about the Catholic Church!
I think Scientology is just like any other religion...most of its members are probably just regular folk, but the structure and organization lends itself to attracting those who get corrupted by power and greed. Just look at some of those mega-church pastors! It has even happened to some Eastern gurus who probably started out sincere and then got corrupt.
I prefer to not label an entire organization a STO or STS. I don't think organizations can be STS or STO. Only individuals can be STS or STO. Just as some souls might polarize to STO despite their pastor being totally corrupt/STS, so too can some souls polarize to STO despite being Scientologists or whatever.
Sure, Scientology has a lot of control tactics used. No doubt about that. But so do most religions! I don't really see it as all that much different.
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: Stay away from television and anything broadcast by mainstream media.
Oh, but I love watching Olbermann!!! =( He's pretty mainstream but really funny sometimes! He keeps me up-to-date on what the mainstream is doing. I do agree, though, that tv can become rather mesmerizing, or, as Ra has stated, essentially a sleeping pill! Especially if the mainstream media is one's only source of info!
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: They contain implants that are designed to effect you in a negative fashion, similar in a way to psychic greetings.
Ah, so that would explain why my brother totally agrees with me after an hour-long debate, but then 2 weeks later, after listening to Rush Limbaugh, he acts as though we never discussed it at all! Hmmmm....you may have a point there!
But, hey, the world is full of subliminals. Just look at tv commercials and billboards!
I think that stuff only affects those are still asleep. For example, since becoming a vegetarian 29 years ago, I am not the slightest bit tempted to eat a hamburger even after seeing lots of McDonald's commercials. It just doesn't faze me. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
About a year ago, I met someone who was a fundamentalist Christian and she told me I was going to 'hell' because I believed in reincarnation and didn't limit myself to the doctrine of Christianity. That evening, I heard a voice - literally! - at a very low volume, going on and on about how ONLY Christians go to 'heaven' and how I should return to the Bible, etc. It was really bizarre. These thoughts kept popping into my head for no reason!
But, guess what, I caught it! It was so obvious they weren't my thoughts! I realized very quickly that I was hearing her praying for my soul. Well, to her it was prayer, but to me it seemed like black magick, because it was against my will (and she knew it!).
I really do think that once we wake up and exercise our Free Will, we are far less susceptible to programming by others.
Still, if anyone feels concerned about the media, they should follow their own personal guidance about it (as with anything). But I just don't think completely avoiding the media out of fear really accomplishes very much. We are bombarded by various info from various sources all day long. We can't really escape it unless we live under a rock!
I'm reminded of that old prayer:
Do not pray for an easy life...Pray to be a strong person.
I'm not advocating walking into a hornet's nest! Sure, if it's obviously a hornet's nest, walk around it. But neither do I necessarily go looking for hornet's nests!
At any rate, I no longer believe that the entire media is out to get us. I think there are a lot of good people trying to do good things with the media. It's quite mixed, methinks.
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: What ever you do stay away from all secret societies, occult groups or their like.
Do you include religions in your list of things to avoid?
Avoiding religions, covens, or secret societies might be appropriate for some, while not for others. Our own dear Carla worships at a Christian church! I don't think we can assume that what works for one person is 'right' for another. We can only share what works for ourselves; ultimately, we each must follow our own guidance. We do avoid any sort of rigid doctrine here at Bring4th, while welcoming suggestions...so you might get a variety of responses to your suggestions.
(12-03-2009, 03:26 PM)Ashim Wrote: If but just one single Soul can be helped through this teach/learning then all has been worthwhile.
That sounds familiar...is that a Ra quote?

I remember one of the things that impressed me the most about the Law of One was when Ra stated that they had just as much to learn from us as we did from them! (or something like that...) Whereas most other channeled info I had seen always seemed from the perspective of a teacher trying to teach us, Ra's attitude was always one of humility and acknowledgment that teaching/learning was always a 2-way process!
So, I absolutely agree with you on that! At the same time, I think anytime any of us offers some info to an other-self, there is something in it for us as well...something for us to learn...thus, it's always worthwhile!
Ashim, I have enjoyed reading your comments and look forward to more sharing of ideas! I hope that you enjoy the community and learn a great deal from everyone here, just as we all learn from one another!