The undeniable truth of Darkness and STS

[Tenet Nosce]

It is unfortunate that you did not let everyone know the gist of the entire post that was made in the DC forum.

I provided a link to it for anybody who cares to read it. I wouldn't want to put words in your mouth by summarizing your posts on your behalf. That is how many conflicts get started in web forums... as perhaps you well know by now.

When I speak of dark and light as the natural polarity found in the design of the universe this is vastly different than the darkness of greedy self gratifying people who manipulate and abuse others for their own personal gain. But I think you knew that.

Yes, I know that. As well, so do you know that the "STS path" is a path of spiritual adepthood. The "STS path" is not simply referring to selfish people who don't think past their own sense of immediate gratification. Those people aren't on a spiritual path yet. They know not what they do.

is it an insult for me to point that out? I do not think so given the amount of posts that we have shared that lead me to make that remark. Why can I not state what I observe?

You are welcome to state what you have observed. However- when you take an observation about some members and then make a generalization about members who you have had little to no such interaction with- that is what I think some people find insulting. Do you see the difference?

If I come to a place and my observation is that many of those I have just conversed with seem to be tolerant of STS, than how is it an insult for me to say that I find that many here seem to be STS oriented? It might be an insult if I was deliberately trying to offend someone. But when I am simply relaying what I believe I am experiencing, than that is simply stating what I observe as fact. Ot at least possible and needing further invetsigation.

I would say that it needs further investigation. Expressing tolerance for the STS path does not mean that one condones it, or would recommend it to others. Neither does acceptance necessarily mean approval.

I would normally give you the benefit of the doubt on this one- however several members, including myself, have made this point to you multiple times and somehow it keeps getting overlooked by you.

I had good reason to try to lead a discussion by posting the Brown Notes without actually labeling them. I had tried to have a discussion about STs and the best of my efforts were being mocked and derailed. If that tactic had worked, whether a little underhanded or not, it certainly would have had a dramatic affect at revealing some of the things that I was trying to reveal here.

There is nothing to reveal that is not already known. Hatonn is of fourth density. Latwii is of fifth density. Ra is of sixth density. They each have different perspectives, but there is no incongruence. If you see incongruence between any of these documents, it is more likely due to your not having studied them deeply enough.

I have been clear about my feelings around the apathetic stance with regard to STS. In many of my earlier discussions here on that topic, with a few particular members, the discussions very much gave me the impression that STS was being taught by them to be worthy of exploration and that it didnt really matter because we are all One anyway.

Well then, I suggest you would do better by keeping your comments directed toward those particular members in question, rather than attempting to generalize to the whole forum base.

But, I am not here to point fingers or try to corner anyone by rehashing that or posting all those remarks.

You may want to consider that perhaps what you are perceiving as "apathy" from some of the members is precisely because we are tired of rehashing the same old debates over and over again about STO/STS. People are going to believe whatever they want to believe. That much you can count on.

What matters is that there might be a chance that something that I have said has caused someone who might have been thinking that STS is a path worth exploring, might now think twice.

Who elected you their savior? I think perhaps you are missing an important point about service-to-others... generally speaking the service must be first requested by the other. Pushing your service onto another who has not requested it is a spiritual violence, and ultimately depolarizing.

That makes all of this worthwhile to me. Heck, just the fact that I am getting Gary to actually read the Brown Notebook is a bonus. Who knows, maybe some of the confusion can be cleared up completey when some of what I said is further investigated.

There is no confusion beyond that which exists in your own mind. Here you are telling others to read the Brown Notebook. May I ask? Have you read all of the Ra material? How about the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues? Overall, what percentage of the L/L Research Transcripts have you, Shin'Ar, actually read?

Or did you just skim over a few things and then jump right in ready to tell others "how it really is"?

All in all, these remarks that many of you have made about me were expected and only serve to point out that which I was already trying to point out. There are many here who have a problem with having their understandings of STS questioned and dissected.

No- they don't serve to point out what you were trying to point out. That would be called "STS" thinking. In actuality, they serve to point out what we were trying to point out.

Please- don't tell me what I think about something. You seem to be overestimating your ability to probe into another person's mind. Not to mention that probing into another person's mind- without permission- is actually "STS" behavior.

Light and dark. Polarity. If you understand what that means than you will not need me to explain the balancing of the two in nature.

I don't need you to explain anything to me. I have my own internal guidance system, thank you very much. Oh, and by the way, trying to get others to acknowledge oneself as an external authority on spiritual matters is "STS" behavior. I would "warn" you of the dangers of styling oneself as a spiritual authority... but you haven't asked and it wouldn't make a difference, would it?

Darkness and STS.

Yes. I see you know all about it. Seeing as how you repeatedly use lies, deception, manipulation, accusations, threats, warnings, admonitions, and fear, in order to make your points. How is that working out for you so far, Shin'Ar? Have you "converted" anybody to the Light side yet?

But if someone states that they think that partaking in STS is a great way to learn about one's self, or that it really doesn't matter if someone murders someone or not because we are all One, than I would state that person to be STS oriented. Which is what I found with at least half a dozen members here as they argued their points about exactly that with me.

Perhaps your experience of the forum members was skewed. Have you considered all of the members who didn't participate in those threads? Did you see me write a peep in Zaxon's thread? No- but you were sure quick to draw conclusions about me based on what others wrote, now weren't you?

Insulting? Not in my understanding.

Apparently, to your understanding, making general comments about a group of people based on your interactions with only a few is a totally loving and "STO" thing to do. Go figure.