03-22-2012, 08:33 AM
Monica,
You may be absolutely right on a misunderstanding over their perception of STS and that which I have of it. maybe that is why they were taking insult and why I saw their replies as sarcastic. I thought they were deliberately being facetious or distracting, because I knew that I had not deliberately meant to be insulting.
It does make a little more sense now.
I did read that about the 95 % thing with regard to harvest, but I did not apply that to the overall day to day choices of living life. It actually confuses me a little as I can't see how a person who practices service to self to the degree of 95% would not be considered STS, and yet one who only practices service to others half that time WOULD be considered STO. That is a contradiction that I cant grasp.
But maybe that has to do with how I am defining STS. So let me be clear and then you can tell me if that is causing the issue here.
In my studies of various religions, there has forever been the call to rise above the flesh and escape its hold so that one can become a higher self, not bound to continuing in the cycle of reincarnation. This has been the recurring teaching of many religions and philosophies around the world for thousands of years.
Bear in mind that I am NOT trying to convert anybody to any of these religions. And I am NOT preaching any specific doctrine. This is simply my understanding of what I have learned through studying these things.
And within those teachings there is the acknowledgement that the reason that this separation from the flesh is so diffcult to accomplish is because of the pleasures that the flesh affords. It is in self gratification, for the sake of enjoying the tempting pleasures of the flesh, that man becomes so addicted to those pleasures that he neither wants to be separated from them, nor can he, because of his addicition.
Now, it is also taught in many of these ancient religions that when the angels/ higher beings/ Ets, or whatever name one wants to give them, first came to Earth they became addicted to the pleasures of the flesh and trapped within the cycle of reincarnation as a result, because they did not want to leave the flesh behind. And they became so entrapped in the routine of it that they actually lost/forgot their true identites. These became known as the Sons of Belial or the Sons of Darkness because of their desire to remain in the flesh, while others, having realized their plight and loss, and were aware of their true divine nature, became the Sons of Light.
The distinguishing factor between these two was not a % ratio, but the fact that the Sons of Light believed that the way to escape from their flesh was to avoid being addicted to it, and so instead of indulging in self gratification, they sought to serve others, seeek harmony and love for all, and deny their fleshly lusts and passions of individualism.
Those who were not of that desire, and did not want to separate from those lusts and desires, were at odds with their brethren and struggles between the two became more and more exxagerated. Those now not only engaged in self gratification as a lifestyle and philosophy, but they now had to contend with others who were 'not' so inclined, and in that source of contention, control and power became the goal of those who did 'not' seek to 'escape the flesh'.
This is my understanding of the definitions of 'service to self' and 'service to others', and in that understanding I find it difficult to comprehend the whole idea of those Sons of Belial, not being Sons of Belial, UNTIL they reach some point of 95%. In my thinking it is not the degree, but the chosen path and direction of the walk, and philosophy of the mind, that makes one either/ or.
Maybe you could further explain what lines or boundaries are seen at that degree of 95%? What exactly are the characteristics one would reveal of themselves to be at the 95% point?
Is a person not of the Sons of Belial mindset until they actually commit murder or some type of deliberate espionage agaisnt society? Does Ra give any definition of that at all? What brings a person to 95%?
From now on I will use the term Sons of Belial when speaking of STS so that it does not make it sound like I am accusing one of being at that 95% stage. I will avoid using the term Sons of Darkness because anyone that doesn't understand that the 'darkness' does not refer to evil, but reincarnation, might take that as an insult.
You may be absolutely right on a misunderstanding over their perception of STS and that which I have of it. maybe that is why they were taking insult and why I saw their replies as sarcastic. I thought they were deliberately being facetious or distracting, because I knew that I had not deliberately meant to be insulting.
It does make a little more sense now.
I did read that about the 95 % thing with regard to harvest, but I did not apply that to the overall day to day choices of living life. It actually confuses me a little as I can't see how a person who practices service to self to the degree of 95% would not be considered STS, and yet one who only practices service to others half that time WOULD be considered STO. That is a contradiction that I cant grasp.
But maybe that has to do with how I am defining STS. So let me be clear and then you can tell me if that is causing the issue here.
In my studies of various religions, there has forever been the call to rise above the flesh and escape its hold so that one can become a higher self, not bound to continuing in the cycle of reincarnation. This has been the recurring teaching of many religions and philosophies around the world for thousands of years.
Bear in mind that I am NOT trying to convert anybody to any of these religions. And I am NOT preaching any specific doctrine. This is simply my understanding of what I have learned through studying these things.
And within those teachings there is the acknowledgement that the reason that this separation from the flesh is so diffcult to accomplish is because of the pleasures that the flesh affords. It is in self gratification, for the sake of enjoying the tempting pleasures of the flesh, that man becomes so addicted to those pleasures that he neither wants to be separated from them, nor can he, because of his addicition.
Now, it is also taught in many of these ancient religions that when the angels/ higher beings/ Ets, or whatever name one wants to give them, first came to Earth they became addicted to the pleasures of the flesh and trapped within the cycle of reincarnation as a result, because they did not want to leave the flesh behind. And they became so entrapped in the routine of it that they actually lost/forgot their true identites. These became known as the Sons of Belial or the Sons of Darkness because of their desire to remain in the flesh, while others, having realized their plight and loss, and were aware of their true divine nature, became the Sons of Light.
The distinguishing factor between these two was not a % ratio, but the fact that the Sons of Light believed that the way to escape from their flesh was to avoid being addicted to it, and so instead of indulging in self gratification, they sought to serve others, seeek harmony and love for all, and deny their fleshly lusts and passions of individualism.
Those who were not of that desire, and did not want to separate from those lusts and desires, were at odds with their brethren and struggles between the two became more and more exxagerated. Those now not only engaged in self gratification as a lifestyle and philosophy, but they now had to contend with others who were 'not' so inclined, and in that source of contention, control and power became the goal of those who did 'not' seek to 'escape the flesh'.
This is my understanding of the definitions of 'service to self' and 'service to others', and in that understanding I find it difficult to comprehend the whole idea of those Sons of Belial, not being Sons of Belial, UNTIL they reach some point of 95%. In my thinking it is not the degree, but the chosen path and direction of the walk, and philosophy of the mind, that makes one either/ or.
Maybe you could further explain what lines or boundaries are seen at that degree of 95%? What exactly are the characteristics one would reveal of themselves to be at the 95% point?
Is a person not of the Sons of Belial mindset until they actually commit murder or some type of deliberate espionage agaisnt society? Does Ra give any definition of that at all? What brings a person to 95%?
From now on I will use the term Sons of Belial when speaking of STS so that it does not make it sound like I am accusing one of being at that 95% stage. I will avoid using the term Sons of Darkness because anyone that doesn't understand that the 'darkness' does not refer to evil, but reincarnation, might take that as an insult.