03-25-2012, 07:00 PM
(03-25-2012, 06:06 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: For sure! I suppose what I am getting at is the person who says they want to wake up, but based on their actions doesn't really want to. So many people now are out there "spreading the word" about this or that conspiracy, negative agenda, controlling elite, etc., but refuse to see how they, themselves, have contributed to the problems they are supposedly railing against.
For example- I can go on and on about the bankers and the federal reserve. But I was the one who signed all those student loan papers. I am the one who still charges things on my Bank of America credit card so I can get my frequent flier miles. I am the one who is still using Federal Reserve Notes to buy my groceries. So to my way of thinking, railing against the bankers only goes so far. If I -truly- want to do something about this situation, I need to actually change things about how I operate my life in order to reduce my personal contribution to these systems. And I have changed a LOT. It's a process and doesn't happen all at once. And I am "OK" with where I am at in the process.
Other folks- well if I even "dare" suggest that THEY are part of the problem they are railing against... LOOK OUT! Here comes the defensiveness, the denial, the accusations, and all the rest. So, on the one hand, they SAY they want to wake up... but waking up actually involves taking responsibility, which in turn involves the realization that we are all connected. It's not just somebody "out there" doing "bad stuff" to me... it is me who is inviting the "bad stuff" through my participation in it.
If somebody wants to sleep, that is their prerogative. But claiming one is awake while denying responsibility for their own circumstances in life is just plain absurd, in my book.
Right. People are complaining about the traffic, while sitting in the car.
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Right. And so you learned. But at what point does that person who needs to "experience that for themselves" finally start to appreciate the wisdom of others, and to actually listen to it? How many "lessons" need to be learned, before the meta-lesson is learned that one does not have to experience each and every thing for themselves, in order to grow? According to my understanding, much of fourth density experience is about learning from the experiences of others, and understanding that this is a much more efficient way of growing than the somewhat childish approach which says one must do everything on their own.
I understand what you are saying, and it's valid questions. My take is that you can scream as much as you want, "warning" people about this or that; if they are not ready to receive your message, it doesn't matter what you do or say - unless you make them to listen, and these methods are known as manipulation, controlling, using fear, enslavement etc. Perhaps detachment to the outcome is the lesson of wisdom? Offer what you have - but if misses the mark, you move on? And why is that people are not listening? My take is that Creator already knows Itself.