12-16-2009, 04:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2009, 04:25 AM by Peregrinus.)
Inquisitive, aren't you? hehe
First and foremost, I wish to make a disclaimer. Though I sound sure of myself, this is what I have pieced together with my logical ape mind, and may not be entirely accurate, even though it resonates with my understanding and remembered of Ra's and Q'uo's channeled words, and I believe it to be so. As Q'uo says, keep what resonates, and allow the rest to fall away.
Ascending 4D STO spirits will be returned to earth, no veil.
Ascending 4D STS spirits will be moved elsewhere, no veil.
Not Ascending 3D STO and STS spirits will be relocated to another 3D planet, where they will be incarnated in whatever physical form is in use by that galaxies Logos. They will resume experience, lessons, and the path where they left off on earth, and they will know as much about their past as we know about ours.

(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: Neat Video! I wonder if the patterns are the same if you repeat the experiment. It is very interesting how the patterns become more complex as the vibration/frequency increases.Play the video again. The same frequencies make the same patterns. Just kidding. Yes, the frequencies will always make the same patterns. I'd be interested in seeing which patterns are made by the Solfeggio frequencies.
(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: The idea that the spirit will be left "standing there" resonates with me. What does that means for 3D?3D earth will go into a potentiated state, meaning here but inactive.
(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: In 4D are we self aware?Yes 4D beings are self aware and there is no veil, so awareness is that of intelligent infinity and love.
(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: I know that "awareness" is available in 3D. There are many that will attest to have had the experience of becoming aware of the love, light, and oneness of the universe, then "return" to their 3D bodies. When the veil is removed are we in 3D? Once the veil is removed we make a choice. I don't see how there is any turning back from that, of course, unless, we choose to do just that cuz of "free will"...When the veil is removed we will be in the inbetween incarnative state. No, there is no turning back. There is no co-existence of that which is with that which is not, because that which is not was an illusion. Upon harvest, there is no mbs complex, only the spirit. One thing I note is that you think the choice is made when the harvest takes place. The choice is not made during harvest. It is made prior to the harvest, and is done so unconsciously or consciously. Polarity with which to meet the requirements of ascendancy is gained either positively (acceptance) or negatively (control) through effective use of catalyst.However, once the cat is out of the bag, can the "aware" m/b/s co-exist with the m/b/s complex that is not? I don't see how the aware m/b/s would have any common topical interest as an unaware m/b/s complex.
(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: Does Ra ever say how long the harvest will take, the order of the harvest, and what happens while we are waiting for our turn to be harvested?We live in space time. The harvest takes place in time/space, where time as we understand it does not exist. Therefore, one second might appear to be a million years, or a billion years might appear to be one second. Unless you understand and perceive time/space presently, there is no way to explain this sufficiently.
(12-16-2009, 02:50 AM)seejay21 Wrote: I wonder if the harvested beings move on to 4D, and not harvested beings reincarnate into a remade 3D earth-like experience, with the vei intact, and no "knowledge" of what had transpired on earth in 2012.All are subject to the process of harvest, unless previously having been capable.
Ascending 4D STO spirits will be returned to earth, no veil.
Ascending 4D STS spirits will be moved elsewhere, no veil.
Not Ascending 3D STO and STS spirits will be relocated to another 3D planet, where they will be incarnated in whatever physical form is in use by that galaxies Logos. They will resume experience, lessons, and the path where they left off on earth, and they will know as much about their past as we know about ours.