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    05-21-2012, 08:31 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2012, 08:31 PM by godwide_void.)
    (05-21-2012, 07:14 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: If you use drugs you feed your animal body. The mind rationalizes that there are spiritual teachings in it.And the spirit will feed you spiritual teachings. But the mind follows the body and the spirit does it's own thing. It is better to have the body follow the mind and have that follow the spirit.

    One must come to realize the vibratory nature of consciousness and that molecular technology is merely externalized frequency programs that may be uploaded into one's database of consciousness. The mind will rationalize things however it will, as it is one's beliefs, intents, perspectives, and will which determine one's subsequent experiences. If one partakes in consciousness-altering technologies as a means of recreation, the experience will be that of leisure. If an escape from a problem is sought, then one will find themselves in a potentially detrimental position of running away from onesself. If it is answers which are sought, then answers and questions will be provided. If divine communion is what one believes will be facilitated from ingestion of molecular technology, if one knows and believes that such is 100% possible and within one's grasp, if one intends this to be the primary focus of one's psychonautical immersions, if this experience is focused upon and willed from the very depths of one's being, then it shall be so.

    However, to dismiss any potential spiritual gnosis ascertained from the usage of natural sacraments as being a figment of the mind is to deny the countless instances of states of mysticism experienced by many, to deny the effective and documented work of all shamans and sages whose source of faith, knowledge and power directly correlate with the proper utilization of these tools and to deny a core truth that human life itself is a vast spiritual teaching. These sacraments which predate human existence and have proven invaluable to dozens of ancient cultures and civilizations which thrived and flourished, which developed such ineffable connections with nature and the divine, from their close relationships with these plant teachers, are those tools which may effectuate liberation and true sight.

    One's perceptions and conceptions must not be restricted by and to the confines of this illusion when seeking to attain evolution and growth. It is obvious that there lingers a semblance of conditioning in some minds as it pertains to the matter of drugs thanks to the tarnishing campaign waged against man to prevent him from coming into possession of illuminating knowledge. Western civilization has associated the topic of drugs with a troublesome negative stigma that results in the demonization and dismissal of any who advocate its benefits as an addict, or deranged, or 'not in their right mind', and instead espouse consumption and exposure to toxins as more socially acceptable. Woe to those who would rather numb the mind, dull the senses, and taint the sacred altar of the self which the One has manifested rather than seek more visceral manners of honoring that divine essence within and which is all things.

    Gemini Wolf, I hope that you successfully wean off those pharmaceutical drugs in time. Much of the 'medication' prescribed by doctors are done so, in plenty of cases, with profit as the motivating factor, and the medications themselves are not without risk and a plethora of side effects. Natural entheogens are far safer than any pharmaceutical drug, any legal vice (e.g. alcohol, cigarettes sprayed with hundreds of poisonous additives) and certainly far more spiritually beneficial. This is not to say that I am recommending you to use them instead, but merely to make the contrast and highlight the latent detriments of most pharmaceutical medicine. For instance, those anti-depressant commercials that state "Side effects may include: DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL IDEATION", as if one couldn't get more ironic and self-defeating.

    Returning to the addressing of Ali's quote above, you seem to be placing some sort of division on spiritual lessons and implying that the body and mind have no role in this. The body is the physical vehicle for the consciousness, the mind its control panel, and one's field of consciousness both permeates the vehicle, operates the control panel, and manifests itself as one's entire surroundings in reality. One's body or mind is not the spirit or the consciousness. These are elements which one's individualized portion of consciousness has manifested in order to learn in this illusion, thus giving credence to the notion that the Self or true consciousness may be taught by the manifested temporary identity and finite version of Self.

    I would like to add also a few more points: moderation is key, responsibility and safety are primary and extremely crucial, addiction of any sort must be prevented from arising and if this becomes difficult to suppress discontinuation of involvement with the object which perpetuated the addiction is suggested, and there is an tremendous difference and distinction that must be made between drugs which are dead-end angels within themselves and substances which will serve to open one's horizon every time, that allows for substantial growth and evolution, that provides only benefits with little detriment, and that these notions are secondary to the first cause and sole determining factor of all these facets, which is one's self, the stance one holds and the approach one takes.
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    I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by GreatSpirit - 05-19-2012, 02:05 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Ali Quadir - 05-19-2012, 04:28 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Meerie - 05-19-2012, 04:30 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-19-2012, 09:03 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Diana - 05-19-2012, 10:55 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-19-2012, 11:54 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Cyan - 05-19-2012, 11:57 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-19-2012, 12:40 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by abstrktion - 05-19-2012, 12:38 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Aaron - 05-19-2012, 12:42 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-19-2012, 12:52 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by GreatSpirit - 05-19-2012, 02:08 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Ali Quadir - 05-20-2012, 07:02 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Monica - 05-19-2012, 05:08 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by godwide_void - 05-19-2012, 07:00 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-19-2012, 07:38 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by hogey11 - 05-19-2012, 10:58 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-20-2012, 08:05 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by xise - 05-20-2012, 02:03 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by godwide_void - 05-20-2012, 02:51 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-21-2012, 06:05 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-21-2012, 08:44 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-22-2012, 09:40 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-22-2012, 10:20 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-22-2012, 10:58 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Patrick - 05-22-2012, 11:09 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-22-2012, 11:18 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-22-2012, 06:34 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by godwide_void - 05-21-2012, 09:07 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-21-2012, 09:11 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by JoshC - 05-22-2012, 01:54 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Namaste - 05-22-2012, 05:29 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Unbound - 05-22-2012, 07:01 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Shin'Ar - 05-23-2012, 07:28 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Oceania - 05-24-2012, 03:49 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-25-2012, 10:42 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Richard - 05-25-2012, 10:56 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Avocado - 05-25-2012, 06:14 PM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Tenet Nosce - 05-26-2012, 10:39 AM
    RE: I'm done with drugs and alcohol - by Steppingfeet - 05-31-2012, 05:03 PM

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