What is the probability of God existing?

[Ali Quadir]

This is an interesting question that has been asked by many others, including Dawkins. We can't seem to be able to provide a satisfying proof of God nor can we exhaustively disprove God. What about the probability of existence? How would one even come up with such a number in the first place?

There is absolutely no way to prove or disprove God scientifically. Neither do we have any scientific leads on probability. Science is simply not designed to do this.

The reason people believe is not because of evidence, it's also not because of peer pressure or social dogma. It's because of direct subjective experience. This has no scientific value however. And some people like mr Dawkins like to assume for this reason that it has no value in life either.

Philosophically speaking there is a strong case to be made that this universe seems to indicate the presence of a creator or creating principle. But this is a philosophical case, not a scientific one. I will make it if you're interested. But some insight in philosophy is required. Dawkins does not put down a strong philosophical basis. He's a biologist so he's partly excused.

The atheist movement under Dawkins guide has adopted a stance where only scientific evidence is valuable. They often are clueless about the origins of science and the methods of science, and if you try to explain this to them it usually goes above their heads. Even Dawkins himself misses the point about the limits of science on occasion.

Have you come here to explain there is no evidence for God? Or have you come here to find answers about God? Depending on your intentions I would have a different answer for you.

I believe in God because Irrationally I know without a doubt who he is. And rationally it is impossible for me to discredit this irrational knowledge. Faith is where I accept my irrational knowledge to be correct in absence of evidence for or against.

Mr Dawkins belongs to the category of atheist frequently described as "Angry white men"... Their motives are understandable if you're British or American, since Christian dogma in those countries is sky high. For some reason it's part of the national conservative pose to believe in creationism for those guys. And this causes a lot of injustice and idiotic situations. But it is not caused by the average religious Joe. It's caused by the media more than by the people.

Is there anything specific you'd like? I'm even in for a good science versus religion discussion if within the forum parameters.