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    06-20-2012, 05:43 PM (This post was last modified: 06-20-2012, 05:48 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    (06-13-2012, 06:29 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    Q'uo Wrote:The reason that this applies to the graduation context is that in that question that was brought by the one known as J the entities involved felt that, as wanderers from the fifth density, upon graduating from Earth’s third density they would automatically move back into their home vibration. This is emphatically not true, and we felt that this is a very germane point, for all wanderers become Earth natives when they incarnate. The taking of a physical body is the taking of the blood, and bone, and the sinew of the entire human experience. There is no such thing as a tourist in the body on planet Earth. All of you have become natives, whatever your planet or origin or your densities of previous experience.

    I like how you ended your own sentence above with "right away", because Q'uo said in the above session that we will not go back to home vibration *automatically*, which to me means "right away". Maybe it will take a little while, who knows, but I am sure that the time it takes is probably just another blink of a third density eye compared to the time or no time in higher densities, or our home vibration.

    I'm not too fond of debating semantics, but it seems the reason I interpret this passage differently from you is purely semantic.

    You say that you think "automatically" means "right away," which, by definition, is not necessarily true. It's not synonymous with instantly and has a greater meaning. If something is automatic, it means it requires no external effort to function. It could related to "instantly" because we might think of something happening automatically, since it requires no external effort, as happening instantly.

    However, in the context of the Q'uote, I see "automatically" having nothing to do with a reference of when it might happen, but rather how it would happen, since that is the true definition of automatically.

    We would not automatically return to our home density because it requires external effort. There are other factors which are involved in returning to our home density and it does not happen without effort on our part. Were it to happen automatically, a Wanderer who switched polarities or perhaps became involved karmically within incarnation would return to their home density without consideration for what happened within their incarnation. That would be "automatically."

    I don't see this particular Q'uote as saying that a Wanderer would have to wait and do more work after incarnation is done in order to return home. Q'uo describes the necessary "external" effort which must be put forth later in that session: "it is first necessary to rediscover that deep self within this incarnation which you now experience to the extent that you are able to recapitulate that choice and the decisions that lead to being able to tolerate the light that is offered to those whose thoughts are more than 51percent for other entities and how to serve them."

    Were it not "necessary," as Q'uo puts it, it would be automatic. However, this action is necessary, so it is not automatic. What I see Q'uo saying here is that if this particular action is done, the "rediscovery of that deep self within this incarnation which you now experience," then the return home is left only up to the will of the self once the incarnation is over. Q'uo didn't highlight any other necessary action outside of that one within incarnation, so I do not presume that there is more needed to be done as long as this is complete.
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    home of wanderers - by Oceania - 06-12-2012, 04:33 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by godwide_void - 06-12-2012, 04:52 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Oceania - 06-12-2012, 04:56 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by anagogy - 06-12-2012, 06:06 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by godwide_void - 06-12-2012, 05:17 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Oceania - 06-12-2012, 05:19 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Siren - 06-12-2012, 08:18 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-12-2012, 10:21 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Ankh - 06-13-2012, 06:29 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2012, 05:43 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Zachary - 06-13-2012, 02:40 AM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Unbound - 06-13-2012, 02:31 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Avocado - 06-13-2012, 02:36 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-13-2012, 06:40 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Patrick - 06-13-2012, 07:45 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-18-2012, 04:34 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-20-2012, 05:54 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Patrick - 06-20-2012, 06:46 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Ankh - 06-23-2012, 06:28 AM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-20-2012, 10:38 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by neutral333 - 06-23-2012, 12:54 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Oceania - 06-23-2012, 05:41 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-25-2012, 05:18 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Ankh - 06-25-2012, 05:45 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by astikain - 06-26-2012, 06:16 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Ankh - 06-27-2012, 07:20 AM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-27-2012, 05:34 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Oceania - 06-28-2012, 09:11 AM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 06-28-2012, 06:52 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Oceania - 07-09-2012, 07:23 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Parsons - 08-26-2012, 05:27 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 08-26-2012, 05:44 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by DMCubic - 08-26-2012, 06:45 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by Spaced - 08-26-2012, 07:10 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 08-26-2012, 07:18 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by reeay - 10-17-2012, 05:32 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 10-17-2012, 05:33 PM
    RE: home of wanderers - by reeay - 10-17-2012, 05:37 PM

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