Polarizing effects of food stuffs

[Diana]

You cannot consider this subject without addressing the situations, which all to often occur in our society. Lets take a look at Ethiopia. Lets say I just slaughtered 1000 pigs mercilessly and painfully after keeping them caged their entire life and feeding them the droppings of other animals (true of factory farming). Now I take this meat to Ethiopia and with it, feed 10,000 kids, allowing them to continue their incarnate existence and further seek the Creator. Will eating this meat affect their polarity? Indeed it CANNOT because there is no choice posited to them. They can either eat this mystery meat and continue their incarnation allowing them to gather the precious experience available during this time of harvest, or they can deny this mystery food and exit this incarnation, having gained almost no experience. This is a very simple example, and one that roughly 1 Billion of the souls incarnate on this planet could/have/will experience in their lifetime. Also, what about the meat packagers, who cannot find other employment in this unstable economy, but must provide for their family? What about the clerk at the cash register who checks you out? What about the server at the restaurant?

You are describing examples of varying choice. For those starving, there would be little choice. I believe Ra spoke of those beings recently graduated into 3rd density incarnating into situations and areas such as Africa where they align with the predator/prey energies (I am a terrible researcher and just spent an hour trying to find it, sorry). More choice is involved in the other examples.

Let's take the meat-packer who cannot find other employment. Although it is still a choice, this person may feel forced to do this job to survive. Being in 3rd density, choice is key. So this person may eventually see that choice is there, and that there are ways of transcending victimhood.

There need be no judging here. We may, as 3rd density beings, make whatever conscious choices we can given our circumstances and understanding.

Now lets take it a step further. Any meat is ONLY a collection of elements in such and such a way as to provide sustenance. There is no consciousness left in meat above that which is present in all elements and minerals. There is no 'bad' polarity mingling in the meat, waiting to be absorbing by whosoever eats it. Indeed, how could there be? The only difference between 'good' free range vegan fed meat and 'bad' factory farm meat is the elements present in the meat. Therefore, if you wish to posit that some food stuffs is 'good' and others 'bad', you are saying our polarity is affected by the simple use/ingestion of any 1-d or 2-d entities. Does a chair have polarity? If i sit in a chair made by Charles Manson, during his killing sprees, am I losing polarity? These are the questions you MUST answer if you posit that food stuffs itself has an inherent polarity.

This is incorrect. Even mainstream science agrees that meat from slaughtered animals is full of hormones released from terror and fear. At the very least, you are ingesting these hormones physically which then play a part in your body. All things carry energy. Even the chair you mentioned may have enough attention directed at it to embody an energy signature. This is why talismans and certain "power objects" of Native American shamans and brujos are used: they poor attention into them rather like storing energy in a battery.

These distortions arise from two things, I believe:
1. A deep compassion for the second density other-selves involved. So much so that it overrides the logical or wisdom aspects of the self. Recall that Ra stated that such compassion is folly when seen through the eyes of wisdom. I might even guess that some of the people at the front of this issue are 4th density wanderers, as they are tempering their deep and burning bright compassion in the fire of love and have yet to learn the ways of wisdom.

As for me, I have no idea about my place in the scheme of densities. I am very intellectual as opposed to emotional. It is logical on every front to eat a plant-based diet.

Animal flesh is not needed. This is the bottom line. So why eat it when it contributes to obvious suffering?

2. Judgement. When you tell someone that they are doing something wrong, you are judging them. The only product of judgement is disharmony. Also, each of us on these forums is aware of the results of using money and perpetuating this system as well as the factory farm industry. Therefore, how can you judge someone else on something like food when you, yourself, does the same exact thing for the monetary system/ cell phone industry/ etc? This is called hypocrisy and arises from ignoring that which you know within yourself. I would advise addressing yourself before you attempt to aid other-selves.

I totally agree that everyone should first focus on their own actions.

I am not judging. I am simply spelling out truth and facts as I see them. If you feel judged, that is your issue, and I am sorry you feel that way. I am only trying to share my perspective and information in a discussion forum, hoping to learn and evolve myself.

As for me, I make conscientious choices all the time when I have any knowledge of a product.

Again, I reiterate that this does not pertain to the production of the food stuffs in question. I am deeply against the current methods of factory farming and the ways second-density beings are all too often treated in our society. However, what I am also against is people impressing their personal beliefs and compassion and judgements on other-selves to the point of causing disharmony in the form of hurting other peoples feelings, deconstructive arguments, and most of all, judgement.

I am glad to hear of your feelings about animals.

As for opinions expressed here, how is it that only one point of view is "impressing personal beliefs" and not another? If there is disharmony, why is it the result of what is said rather than how it is received?

Perhaps you might see this more objectively. We are all here discussing. There is no need to take it personally.

fter all, there is no bad or good, no evil or just, no black or white. They are faces of the same coin, flipping endlessly through eternity. All is well, and all is one.

Good, bad, evil, just: that is not at all what I think this about. I'm not sure why you see the discussion this way. In my mind, this is about sharing perspectives and widening awareness in order to evolve.

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