01-14-2010, 02:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2010, 02:27 PM by Questioner.)
Thank you for posting this piece, FFG.
Amen! That's why I'm on this forum.
My belief is that it always come down to a feeling of being abandoned by an uncaring God, left adrift, helpless and alone, in a world one can't make any less painful. I believe this is the fundamental raw feeling that underlies every other type of hurt.
Understanding that intellectually is far different than being free of that hurt. I imagine that true freedom from that underlying pain may be a long term journey for me, an extended process.
If the original feeling has fully been expressed and loved, and this can be done in a spirit of playful exploration with joyous curiosity, it could be a helpful tool. However, it seems to me to be as risky as handling radioactive material. For one thing, it could be used as a tactic to get someone to shut up already about how they feel. For another, it could be used as a tactic to try to blame the victim and justify the abuser. These common misuses of the idea, as a weapon of power against someone who hurts, make me very wary about it.
I've encountered that betrayal myself. It is a sad and painful thing to be attacked and hurt by those who held themselves out as gentle, loving healers.
My, I would love to get to visit for dinner some time.
If "spiritual" means "having to do with the Creator," and all of us and every moment are the expression of the Creator, then what question could possibly not be spiritual?
That's a very interesting secret! It seems to me that means that first and second density are ready to love us according to whatever we expect will be their love.
Guys, I love the discussion of love.
(01-14-2010, 08:40 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: We create our energetic experience of reality through however we interpret what happens in each moment. We can change our reality by supporting each other to develop more empowering interpretations and take greater personal responsibility (ability to respond).... Transforming our collective myths and stories.
Amen! That's why I'm on this forum.
Quote:Encourage getting back to the raw emotion without directing it at anyone.
My belief is that it always come down to a feeling of being abandoned by an uncaring God, left adrift, helpless and alone, in a world one can't make any less painful. I believe this is the fundamental raw feeling that underlies every other type of hurt.
Understanding that intellectually is far different than being free of that hurt. I imagine that true freedom from that underlying pain may be a long term journey for me, an extended process.
Quote:After fully experiencing the emotion, consider playing with the idea of exchanging "I'm so upset/angry at you for ..." with "I'm so upset/angry at me for ... "
If the original feeling has fully been expressed and loved, and this can be done in a spirit of playful exploration with joyous curiosity, it could be a helpful tool. However, it seems to me to be as risky as handling radioactive material. For one thing, it could be used as a tactic to get someone to shut up already about how they feel. For another, it could be used as a tactic to try to blame the victim and justify the abuser. These common misuses of the idea, as a weapon of power against someone who hurts, make me very wary about it.
Quote:Where Titans Tread and Fairies Flitter TogetherNot sure if I'm treading or flittering today.
(01-14-2010, 11:00 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: It was painful to be in a space that implied support but really was more about the ego trappings of spirituality.
I've encountered that betrayal myself. It is a sad and painful thing to be attacked and hurt by those who held themselves out as gentle, loving healers.
(01-14-2010, 11:39 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Anyone who partakes of the foods I make come away feeling like they have never had anything so good as what they have eaten.
My, I would love to get to visit for dinner some time.
(01-14-2010, 11:10 AM)airwaves Wrote: Is this supposed to be a thread for spiritual questions, or is that every thread @ b4?
If "spiritual" means "having to do with the Creator," and all of us and every moment are the expression of the Creator, then what question could possibly not be spiritual?
(01-14-2010, 11:55 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I once met a plant shaman who told me a secret....
That's a very interesting secret! It seems to me that means that first and second density are ready to love us according to whatever we expect will be their love.
Guys, I love the discussion of love.