I don't think there is any middle ground on this particular topic, it's either there is no percievable difference since its spread over aproxamatly 100 years OR there are sudden changes and THEN there is a transitional period of 100 years.
What I mean by biased/unbiased is a new person to these forums typically brings this topic up and a tenured member with a gradual view responds with "it will be a gradual transition over 100-700 years" and states this as if it were a fact and not an opinion.
There seems to be fear involved in BOTH viewpoints. The people with a gradualistic viewpoint seem to tend to fear an abrupt change because they believe they must die in order to graduate or simply don't want to give up 3D concepts such as biological families.
On the other hand, there is a huge fear from people who believe it will be abrupt that it will be gradual since they would suffer a life of crushing 3D mediocrity and dysarmony, money to survive, and 3D relationship obligations.
Its not so much a virtue to have an unbiased opinion on the matter, but more or less to not attempt to influence new members with anyone's biased opinion. If I state my opinion on the matter, I always label it as such if I am responding to a new member's query.
I did see the query and I didn't have a definitive answer at the time as I was at work and needed time to re-contemplate the quote. I made the brief reply I did from my iphone on my short lunch break. I just got home, so:
I will be perfectly honest and state I DID read it as "the Mayan's end time in 2012" the first time. I have re-examined the quote since then and still think it means the same thing, roughly. We know that the concept of "end times" which has been repeated by Ra/Q'uo several times refers to the end of 3D and the beginning of 4D and arguably the end of time as well.
I would argue that one of the common threads among pretty much all channelings that ever tackle the subject of the end of 3D / Dec 21st are consistent in their view of this. I don't know if I could classify Dec 21st as a "prediction" because that is like saying you predict the hour hand on a clock will reach 12 today. There is no possibility/probability involved in the alignment that will occur, it is a certainty we will align with the great rift at the center of the galaxy. The implications of this event, however, are up for argument.
What I mean by biased/unbiased is a new person to these forums typically brings this topic up and a tenured member with a gradual view responds with "it will be a gradual transition over 100-700 years" and states this as if it were a fact and not an opinion.
There seems to be fear involved in BOTH viewpoints. The people with a gradualistic viewpoint seem to tend to fear an abrupt change because they believe they must die in order to graduate or simply don't want to give up 3D concepts such as biological families.
On the other hand, there is a huge fear from people who believe it will be abrupt that it will be gradual since they would suffer a life of crushing 3D mediocrity and dysarmony, money to survive, and 3D relationship obligations.
Its not so much a virtue to have an unbiased opinion on the matter, but more or less to not attempt to influence new members with anyone's biased opinion. If I state my opinion on the matter, I always label it as such if I am responding to a new member's query.
(08-17-2012, 09:51 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Also I'm not sure if you saw this question:
Quote:Out of curiosity, where are you seeing the idea that there will be "NO TIME" on December 21st? Is it because Q'uo says "the Mayan's end time is in 2012"?
I am interested to know if there is some supplemental material offering this viewpoint that I'm missing, or if the interpretation is from those specific words.
I did see the query and I didn't have a definitive answer at the time as I was at work and needed time to re-contemplate the quote. I made the brief reply I did from my iphone on my short lunch break. I just got home, so:
I will be perfectly honest and state I DID read it as "the Mayan's end time in 2012" the first time. I have re-examined the quote since then and still think it means the same thing, roughly. We know that the concept of "end times" which has been repeated by Ra/Q'uo several times refers to the end of 3D and the beginning of 4D and arguably the end of time as well.
I would argue that one of the common threads among pretty much all channelings that ever tackle the subject of the end of 3D / Dec 21st are consistent in their view of this. I don't know if I could classify Dec 21st as a "prediction" because that is like saying you predict the hour hand on a clock will reach 12 today. There is no possibility/probability involved in the alignment that will occur, it is a certainty we will align with the great rift at the center of the galaxy. The implications of this event, however, are up for argument.
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