(08-24-2012, 09:07 AM)ShinAr Wrote: What you are proposing is that duality be worshiped as a beautiful thing when in reality duality is simply the consequence of Infinite awareness. It is not a thing to be worshiped, it is a matter of consequence.
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When you see a loved one horribly mangled in a vicious assault, neither you or any aspect of the One is going to see beauty there.
Shin'Ar I agree that duality should not be worshiped.
I have seen a loved one horribly mangled. I found my father dead in his home 6 years ago. His body was in terrible condition, with multiple lacerations and abrations having been inflicted to his face, head, and upper body. That experience was actually what eventually allowed me to find beauty in murder, not what kept me from it.
(08-24-2012, 10:22 AM)Siren Wrote:(08-24-2012, 12:17 AM)Huntress Wrote: Take for instance murder...obviously not a choice embraced as acceptable or beautiful.
The Creator does not properly create as much as it experiences Itself.
In this, free-will is paramount.
There is, ultimately, only One experiencing all this. There is no act to be shunned, no entity to be "damned," for there is no-thing and no-one "outside" of the One Infinite Creator—there is no thought, action, emotion, birth, death, pleasure, bliss, murder or sacrifice that is not of the One Infinite Creator.
This is, however, not something that we expect to be grasped within the confines of this density of limitation (nor fully in the next one either).
Only in ignorance can there be suffering.
Siren, I really enjoyed your thoughts. Thank you.
One mote thought, which I'm sure most of you have heard, but I felt was helpful here..."When you think everything is someone else's fault, you will suffer a lot. When you realize that everything springs from yourself, you will learn peace & joy." - 14th Dalai Lama. Siren's comment, "Only in ignorance can there be suffering" brought this wisdom to my mind.
Not that anyone here think's things are other ppl's fault! It actually reminded me of how I felt it was someone else's fault when my dad died. It's a good example to use to show how I came to my views about the beauty of the dark. I saw how, in different circumstances, I may have perpetrated that same act. It required a great stretching of the mind and much pain. But I can now step back and view the beauty of all the teaching/learning, learning/teaching that occurred b/c of murder. All of those beautiful & wonderful lessons of love, compassion, forgiveness, acceptance, mercy, understanding, & wisdom spring directly from the dark act itself. Peeling away the layers of ugliness to reach the beauty was excrutiaing, but it has brought peace & unity I could not have achieved without that dark act.
Were it not THAT dark act that acted as catalyst, it would have been another. Adversity is born through dark acts. At this point in our evolution, we are still utilizing adversity as a tool to grow, evolve, and reach the Creator. From adversity can come much beauty. Imo, seeking to uncover the the unity in discord while taking responsibilty for the self we yet harbor is simply a path to One.