(08-27-2012, 10:47 AM)godwide_void Wrote: Am I thus to expect, that were I in a secluded area with any of you who attempt to justify darkness as some divine decree, that it would be necessary to be suspicious of your intentions and to guard myself against possible attack unto my being? That I should fear being assaulted or infringed upon or worry that I may experience suffering simply because from your perspectives, since everything exists within the Creator, both good and evil, and that such terms are too wish-washy and troublesome for you to maintain and thus have deleted the distinctions between both from your paradigm of reality, that your twisted moral obligations and quasi-sociopath perspectives would lead to harmful actions of "darkness" against me with the confused justification that the darkness is beautiful and perfectly OK from a macrocosmic perspective?
Remember, that you are human. You may be a form which the Void has taken, and this place may be illusion, and we might all truly be infinite, eternal beings of light and free from disharmony controlling these flesh and blood avatars, but for the time being what we do here is not illusion, and the choices we make and the direction we head in hold more weight than you may imagine. You are exploring the greater distortions of your higher being translated through human circumstances. If you are met with extreme darkness and continue to build off this darkness to such a degree that you have confused the erection of the pillar of wickedness within you as a reflective, parallel substitute to the light, you are gravely mistaken.
Your 2nd paragraph reaffirms our current status as human beings incarnate in 3D. You also point out the importance choice plays during this 3D experince. 3rd density is the density of choice, & indeed we are here in 3D in this illusion. Although I recognize and value the non-duality that is the macrocosm, I can choose not to allow that recognition to supercede or impede my skillful navigation of the tasks at hand in my present incarnation.
One of those 3D tasks/lessons is choice. Say you are in a secluded area with someone that has awakened, chosen STO, & chooses daily on a conscious level to polarize toward STO. Say that person accepts darkness on a macrocosmic level, but is grounded in this microcosmic 3D. As part of that microcosmic 3D, choice is required to skillfully evolve toward the Creator. In polarizing toward STO and consciously utilizing choice as a means of furthering that effort, you would have no need to be suspicious that you would be assaulted or infringed upon.
Here is where a moral compass is very necessary, & becomes IMHO perhaps even more evident. At that point it kind of exceeds a moral compass & becomes closer to an innate knowing. As part of its enlightenment, this 3D being would know, innately, that it would be unspeakable to inflict such an act of darkness upon an other self at this "now" time while still knowing how it All works out in the ripple effect. That one is not living within the illusion of the ripple effect at this "now" time. And the illusion in which we are working foremost is "now". If skillfully navigating the "now" for STO is one's intention and choosen path, then one MUST choose against darkness by choosing not to participate in it. So of course, you would have no reason to be fearful or gaurded near me or any other entity with those said perceptions or intentions.
I also choose to step back, to view 3D acts on a macrocosmic level, paying them the acceptance they are to be afforded. That acceptance may be afforded during meditation, prayer, etc. Imo A wise choice in STO would be to selectively share such accepting, non-dualistic views, offering only with an open heart to others working toward STO & looking to receive with open hearts. Why sharing such encompassing views of creation with certain other selves seems a less than prudent idea seems evident. It's a bit like when our Higher Selves block information from us. They would be doing the "now" us a disservice by revealing this information.
Same principle here for those having pierced intelligent infinity & obtained certain enlightenments, both personal & Universal. These entities, having this portion of the veil lifted, are wise to recall that not all around him/her in 3D have that amount os cosmic vision. With total humility, it is wise for one in STO to make the choice not to discuss higher concepts with those in whom it would likely spawn further distortions and misperceptions to an extent that it is more harmful than beneficial in the relative future i.e. may result in darkness in the relative future. (3D choices must be restricted by the constraints of time, as time is a part of the 3D illusion. Choosing to skillfully navigate 3D requires recognition of this restriction in choice. It is adhered to by a higher density entity incarnated in 3D if they are looking to participate skillfully in 3D.)
Perceiving that the revealing of such higher concepts, the planting of such seeds of thought, would cause negativity, then choosing to reveal the information anyway is choosing darkness. That is not STO. I hope this explaination makes it easier to see why I view everything here so paradoxically. I see the long & short of it, so to speak. But as Pablisimo said "i haven't expanded my mind so much that my brain fell out." I give full credit to the "now" incarnation I am living & the necessity of choice opposing darkness that brings for one choosing the path of STO. I also pay tribute to the balance darkness brings. The latter is done very, very passively in 3D. In meditation, prayer, spiritual communication, etc. I pay deeper homage.
I understand the importance of keeping some information reserved in this environment. For obvious reasons, reasons I respect as necessary. As I said previously, part of 3D transitioning to 4D is that not everyone will have the same perspectives of enlightenment at the same "now" time, but ppl will be seeking & awakening. This is a time for the furthering toward the energy of love.
Knowing that, knowing this forum is full of those seeking in STO, & me having chosen STO as well, I found it worth a try to express my OP. I did so with an open heart in STO to a group of other selves dedicated in STO & looking to skillfully evolve toward the Creator. If this OP can be shared at all, I think this is the best way it could be shared. I hope it would spark peace & unity within those reading it, not fear. That was never my intent.
Nothing will ever be well received by everyone. However, I can't say I consider sparking the idea of fear in an other self by voicing my perceptions is an optimum result. Then again, I am in this "now" moment viewing from limited awareness. I will see at another time the "overall" effects of my "now" efforts to offer peace & unity with respect to the individual in which I sparked the idea of fear, as well as with respect to the All. I shared my perceptions of darkness to offer the energy of peace & unity. I shared them in effort to spark further seeking of enlightenment regarding peace & unity, thus fueling the energy of 4D love in this planetary sphere.
I look at most things from this dual perspective of micro/macrocosmic. It may not be possible for that to be entirely understood or appreciated. If not, that's perfectly ok. It seems rather appauling to some ppl for me to view things in the manner in which I do. I do hope those ppl can at least try to understand it. I assure you I do not want to incite negativity, fear, etc. My goal is to offer peace & unity. I am not advocating darkness or negativity, & had hoped I'd made that clear throughout. This is a loaded topic. I very likely needed to better explain myself. This is a wonderful thread, though. Much love and wisdom being exchanged, despite adversity! I like it!
L/L
(08-28-2012, 09:19 AM)ShinAr Wrote: .....And if we all knew that each and every person we share this life with all believed that beauty and love can be found in acts of hatred and abuse, than why would any of us trust another, or even want to share true love?.....
I see your point here. I think it would be dangerous at this time when strong 3D energy is yet upon this planetary sphere & the human race for each & every person to have this knowledge. That is why the veil is in place. IMO those seeing beyond the consensus "norms" of the veil are able to do so bc they are grounded enough in the illusion of their current incarnation to skillfully navigate within the 3D illusion while maintaining cosmic vision.
I wouldn't want to trust just anyone in 3D with this belief. But I'd be perfectly comfortably trusting some one in 3D who shared my familiar perception of the belief. That's bc, if they share my perception, they would not choose to hurt me, cause pain, or bring darkness or negativity to me or any other self despite cosmic vision. They would be focused on skillful navigation of 3D in STO which requies choosing not to inflict darkness. I would have nothing to fear in trusting, loving, or sharing with this person. In fact, potential for deeper experiences of love, acceptance, & unity exist in such a scenario. That's just how I see it.