08-29-2012, 11:05 AM
(08-28-2012, 10:35 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I still think that gradually can happen abruptly.
Indeed, the harvest is both gradual and abrupt. Gradual in the sense that the full transition will occur over a period of time rather than on one specific day at one specific hour. Abrupt in the sense that when contemplating this planet's total 3rd density's duration (which is roughly 75,000 years), a, say, 100 year harvest/transition would seem almost instantaneous in contrast.
Quote:Here's my question to anyone: Will the Orion entities have the same control and effect on our planet for all time forward as they do now?
Not if a planet becomes a 4th density positive society.
Quote:When the earth moves to 4D, do the rules change regarding influence?
Rules do not change. There are no rules. Awareness changes, and as it does, so do the "rules" of the game, if you like. The environment, setting and ambiance of 4th density will be vastly different than that of 3D. The interactions between positive and negative 4D societies is not the same as the interaction between 4D and 3D entities as it is experienced now (similar as to how the interactions between 3D denizens differs from that between 3D humans and 2D canines).
Quote:I think something that is ignored and I believe is also at the heart of the harvest discussion is the fact that there is an obvious push in our cultural world to push people away from the right answers on a spiritual and ethical level. The fact that the Vatican is the global face of Christianity says enough.
There are influences on this planet (as well as off it) who would like to avert, or rather, at this point, retard and diminish as much as possible what will be the positive harvest.
Quote:How gradually would things move if all the barriers were removed and we started supporting communities living in positive ways? How long would it really take us if we were actually aiming to do the right thing?
You do realize than when you refer to "us" you are also including those who seek in a different direction than yours, don't you? Therefore, the "right" thing for you may not be the "right" thing for them.
However, the time it will take to adjust, align and tune in to the 4th density vibratory patterns as a planetary collective will largely depend on how rapidly the awareness of the people changes, adapts, and molds into it. Resistance and/or unwillingness will be—or rather, is—the great detractor and procrastinator in this transition.
(08-28-2012, 12:24 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The green ray energies and harvest time are determined by our location in the galaxy, correct? I vaguely remember reading that in the Ra material. Our planet is sweeping through a more energetic place in the galaxy. This is what Ra mentions as it being like a clock striking the hour. I see our planet on the face of a clock.
This is basically correct. However, you should take into account the time/space configurations. Though the planet re-aligns its vortices to a more proper space/time receptory location in this galaxy, the influence is primarily of a metaphysical nature; in other words, non-local or of time/space.
Quote:This means that other planets are not sweeping the same area of the sky as we are, so go through different densities.
But then again, Venus is in 5th and I believe some 6th density, and it's not that far away from us. So I'm not sure if location in galaxy has something to do with harvest and density of the planet.
Again, this has largely to do with metaphysical aspects rather than physical.