01-31-2009, 07:25 PM
Quote:Without going into the other interesting aspects of this work, in chapter 18, he explores the concepts of Right and Wrong, and asserts that the definition of “right” is "in conformity with the laws and principles of Sector 3..." where "Sector 3" is that control aspect over human beings, which exists outside the physical universe, that makes us human (in LOO terms, 3rd Density). By his assertion, this includes a code of ethics or morality which are intuitively obtained from our Sector 3 control source.
The LOO brought my attention on that work, i clearly need to read it completly, seems really interresting from what i already read.
Quote:He goes on to exclude a lot of religious dogma that is human extrapolations or additions thereto, but winds up concluding that the Golden Rule ("Do unto others as you would have them do unto you") is an example of just such a universal intuitive ethical or moral rule.
I would not state it like that, see below.
Quote:Thus comes my question. It seemed to me that either Mr. Larson somehow excluded the existence of STS which may well act according to different intuitively obtained rules, or perhaps, there is a different interpretation of the Golden Rule that had never occurred to me before.
The new interpretation of this rule for STS entities being, "that the 'strong' should exert there will over the 'weak'" and whomever is the 'strongest' has as a moral directive to do so. So, were you to encounter someone of stronger will than yourself (something that I expect is contrary to your nature to concede exists), then you would indeed want them to dominate you. Or perhaps a more clear way to put it is when considering the interaction of two other-selves, wherein you would want the stronger to dominate the weaker.
I don't see it with rules as simple as this, but simple things are often misunderstood in life, maybe i need to think about it more.
One attract what he fears because he's not controlling his mind, he focus on the fear, strenghtening it, instead of focusing on what he really wants, thus effectively giving power to the other self.
Your question is not silly IMO, but i can't make a short answer, nor can i give an absolute one (even if i often eradicate what is called doubt).
I guess i have first to compare my vision of STS with yours, otherwise my explanations would be pointless.
Those peoples you often see as having STS activities, who are dominating, controlling, lying, manipulating, etc etc are simply ants .
They are Perverted by the path, they are not in a spiritual quest.
Have a look to those pathetic satanist for example, evil maybe, STS surely not.
We could say the same for someone who is more STO , who is nice with ppl etc etc, maybe he is a nice person , but maybe he is still not on a spiritual path.
That lead to the awareness one have , if you're only helping ppl without thinking, you're probably not helping that much, you could even be completely wrong (like someone who think he helps by giving food, but create dependance from another being), for an STS orientated being it's the same , if you trying to use your power outside it needs to be with a spiritual goal, controlling people to just have a sense of power is plainly ridiculous, pointless.
As i said, a pervertion of the mind, the control and the domination need to be pointed to the inner self where they are usefull to learn uncontrol and spirituality,
i could also compare that with noise , you can make noise outside just bothering others, and you can make noise inside just bothering yourself and leading you to a greater spiritual state (could sound very paradoxal but works very well in practice if you are able to generate enough with your mind, there is a threshold beyond which mind stop suddenly)
Back to your statement :
-Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Let's rephrase it with less distortion :
-Each action bring a reaction.
So now for one who is able to ask himself the question it looks more like that:
Are you really willing to bear the reaction from that action ?
Is it Usefull for me ?
Can i learn something from it?
For myself if the answer is no , i just don't do it and go away. Period.
Related to what i said above i really want to stress people to think about actions and intent.
For example i never lie, because liying is pointless , weak people need to lie, now do it makes me more STO ? no because the intent is not "i don't lie because that's bad", truth bring a lot of power indeed.
The same could be said about something which look really bad from outside, let's take an imaginary example : "I steal the only money someone have because he's lazy and really do nothing to help himself, and i put him in a really bad situation to force him to react"
in that case the action was bad on purpose, but the intent was good .
Both example were not carefully choosen but i think it can get one on track with my thinkings.
Things are not always what they seems.
In the end You could take someone who is really evil as a pure STS being, but maybe he's
I think your question is really interresting, because we are back on track with the topic also.
This is the only LOO part that don't resonate in my self(some points of view of Ra/QUO's about STS i mean)
Btw , i would be losing time if i was interacting so much with my surrounding, controlling, dominating etc, uses energy, far better to keep it for something else more interresting.
mmm i was a bit out of subject maybe.
Was It clear ? (my english need to be trained a bit)