09-05-2012, 06:49 PM
Cmon you guys, there aint no spirit of chef boyardee, and there sure as hell aint no ravioli gods.
Now let me tell you about the Lords of the Cheesecake; those evil minions of obesity.
I don't know how we managed to take the Ascended ones thread into such a dissection of ritual, but I think Godwide said it best.
Ritual, regardless of its degree of complexity or simplicity, is a means to an end whereby either repeating something that was successful once before might result in success again, or where an intent to recognize, honor, or commemorate in some way is performed through a specific guideline.
many rituals had no more intention than to acknowledge a specific holy day or seasonal festivity.
If one had a very spiritual experience while picking their nose one day, and had the same experience each time they picked their nose in that specific environment, I daresay that nosepicking would be the ritual by which they reach that experience.
But let me ask you both,
if you had an experience where you interacted with what seemed to you to be a higher being, or at least a being that was not bound to the physical as you are, and that entity specifically told you that each time you followed a very specific ritual which it described to you and required of you in order to reconnect with it again, would you not attempt to meet that criteria, if not for any other reason than to simply see if it could be done again?
many invocation rituals are very specific to certain higher beings, and many very intimate connections follow ritual because the entity requests such specifics.
Will we refuse to comply to such ritual simply because we think it unnecessary in our mind?
I do not think ritual is a matter of what we think, it is a matter of what is asked of us.
There may be many things that we can accomplish without ritual. But if specifics are requested, compliance then is simple courtesy and respect.
Now let me tell you about the Lords of the Cheesecake; those evil minions of obesity.
I don't know how we managed to take the Ascended ones thread into such a dissection of ritual, but I think Godwide said it best.
Ritual, regardless of its degree of complexity or simplicity, is a means to an end whereby either repeating something that was successful once before might result in success again, or where an intent to recognize, honor, or commemorate in some way is performed through a specific guideline.
many rituals had no more intention than to acknowledge a specific holy day or seasonal festivity.
If one had a very spiritual experience while picking their nose one day, and had the same experience each time they picked their nose in that specific environment, I daresay that nosepicking would be the ritual by which they reach that experience.
But let me ask you both,
if you had an experience where you interacted with what seemed to you to be a higher being, or at least a being that was not bound to the physical as you are, and that entity specifically told you that each time you followed a very specific ritual which it described to you and required of you in order to reconnect with it again, would you not attempt to meet that criteria, if not for any other reason than to simply see if it could be done again?
many invocation rituals are very specific to certain higher beings, and many very intimate connections follow ritual because the entity requests such specifics.
Will we refuse to comply to such ritual simply because we think it unnecessary in our mind?
I do not think ritual is a matter of what we think, it is a matter of what is asked of us.
There may be many things that we can accomplish without ritual. But if specifics are requested, compliance then is simple courtesy and respect.
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