Ascended Ones

[Shin'Ar]

Shin'Ar, consider lightening up
We are not the trash of the universe, we are capable of coming up with our own ideas.
Yeah, the ancients. Those ancient fields. Dem knowledge. Dem wisdom.

We will just do fine, even if majority of our Earth ignores that. Just as any 3d veiled planet after ours will ignore anything that we might happen to record as "Ancient Teaching". Do not worry about that. We are not eternal beings of Love to follow ancient teachings, we are eternal beings of love to rediscover things that seemed impossible before.

My friend I do not understand why you say 'lighten up' as though there is a problem with my use of ancient teaching as the premise for my understanding. If you, or others have a problem with that for some reason, I suggest that it is you that need to lighten your burdens. For if you deny me the choice to use ancient wisdom to manage my understandings, then you also have no right to employ whatever options that you might use to manage your own.

I think you realize this Oldern, and I do not take offense to your remark. i am just pointing out that there is a reason for your taking offense and you should try to understand why that is.

Ah, but little did you know that the Cheesecake Lords were appointed to their profound positions as pastry gods by the supreme Chef and his Ravioli Council, and it is THEY who devised this 'Ancient Wisdom' you now speak of, my friend. -twilight zone theme-

What is that term that Sheldon uses? Kablam?

if you had an experience where you interacted with what seemed to you to be a higher being, or at least a being that was not bound to the physical as you are, and that entity specifically told you that each time you followed a very specific ritual which it described to you and required of you in order to reconnect with it again, would you not attempt to meet that criteria, if not for any other reason than to simply see if it could be done again?

... Of course, I would also attempt to verify if any improvements could be made to this criteria or if there were in fact any alternative methods that could be implemented to achieve these ends, but in the case that no other route could manifest the same results, and only the application of this specific set of actions could accomplish that, then that is what I would inevitably have to adhere to.

But would that not be implying that the higher field did not already consider the efficient aspects of the connection, or that the connection is not already as efficiently established as it could be? Or that you know of a 'better way' to establish such connection. Is there not a certain arrogance implied in suggesting that a different means of establishing the connection would provide a better experience if the sharing? And does that not also suggest that there is also a certain arrogance/authority on the part of the higher being when it establishes a procedure? I cannot consider such as arrogance because the very nature of sharing is not arrogance, so it must have to do with authority. so what would give it that authority? To that my answer is experience and higher understanding, which is what we seek in the first place, is it not?

If we seek higher information from these connections, why would we then attempt to establish our understanding as the authority between the two by questioning the methods of the higher?

If one were directly transmitted certain knowledge from a source intuited as higher or in possession of information far surpassing what a mere human possesses, and certain instructions were telepathically or symbolically relayed or via any other venue of communication which it used to establish contact with you, then it would be foolish to assume that its instructions are bunk, unnecessary or pointless. If one would not have the courtesy to uphold such a spiritual request or command, then it would be safe to say that the chances for once again establishing clear communication would not come to pass unless one decided to follow through on the specific instructions given which led to such communication in the first place.

It seems to me to that assuming that one could simply skip ahead to powerful acts and bypass any of the steps needed to result in such actions would be akin to saying that one could digest food in the stomach without undergoing the process of preparing the food, holding it, placing it to one's mouth, chewing it, and essentially eating the food.

Perhaps there exist simpler methods to achieve a result, and in the case of powerful adepts, they may possess certain understanding which allows them to have refined a certain set of actions down to its bare minimum but with having replaced 'unnecessary' steps with actions that accomplish more, or discover more efficient alternatives in their own rituals, and this hypothesis is made with the assumption that the ritual in question is a creation of the individual and not a specific set of instructions handed down by a guide or force perceived as external from oneself, in which case, as stated before, it would be foolish to try to pinpoint some substitution methods for specific directions given, but the fact still remains that to say one does not require ritual to achieve a result is exactly synonymous with saying that one does not need to follow any steps to achieve an action. Would this post have been made without my executing the ritual of typing it?

Once again you answer my questions as though you had read my mind even before I had made the question. I should learn from past mistakes when responding to these posts piece by piece,lol.

Your reply is perfect. Exactly as I knew you would state it. in fact, in the structure of reconfiguring these posts to place all the quote marks in their proper places, I lose track of whose words are whose. Sometimes I cannot tell you from I. Azreal and Lynn will love to hear that.