Meeting yourself in this life

[Minyatur]

1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

Each portion is the whole focused :

Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

As such, there is no portion that is separate from another portion, the separation lies in the focus of One and not its beingness itself so much.

[buket]

Are portions of our higher self body mind spirit complexes or only spirits?

[Minyatur]

Are portions of our higher self body mind spirit complexes or only spirits?

The higher self is a mind/body/spirit complex just like us.

37.6 Questioner: In that case, we’ll go ahead with the questions we have here continuing the last session. You said that each third-density entity has an higher self in the sixth density which is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex of the entity as needed. Does this higher self also evolve in growth through the densities beginning with the first density, and does each higher self have a corresponding higher self advanced in densities beyond it?

Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.

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To me, mind, body and spirit are all actually spirit, just a trinity of 3 layers of spirit forming a complex of experience. As everything is of the unity of One, then all things are formed with this One's essence, out of this One's spirit.

[buket]

1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

Each portion is the whole focused :

Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

As such, there is no portion that is separate from another portion, the separation lies in the focus of One and not its beingness itself so much.

When the creator focuses portions come to existence. 'Each mind body spirit complex is a unique pırtion of the creator' says Ra. Why would he say the word portion then?

[AnthroHeart]

A drop in the ocean is not a drop. It is the ocean.

[buket]

What are portions of ourselves and portions of our higher selves that incarnate simultaneously. Are they spirit part of us?

[Minyatur]

A way I like to term it is that intelligent infinity is to your higher self what your higher self is to you. It is your subconscious counterpart that remains aware amidst your experience.

You are the portion (sub-focus) of the higher self that allows it to know itself without the awareness it has of itself, just like it is a portion of its own totatility and that of being one with all things. You are everything, and there's a focus of us that that can't unsee it, but by making itself separate in focus (portions), it is able to be aware of itself in a perception that is not aware of the totality of each thing.

Each and every thing is somewhat infinite intelligence seeing through a viewpoint, unconditional in its love at all moments.

[AnthroHeart]

One thing that makes me wonder Elros.

Is Creator above Intelligent Infinity, or below it? Or are they the same thing?

[Minyatur]

One thing that makes me wonder Elros.

Is Creator above Intelligent Infinity, or below it? Or are they the same thing?

If by Creator you mean Logos, then it is a focus of Intelligent Infinity, we all are that.The One Infinite Creator is Intelligent Infinity, it is the Highest Self.

At the end of the day you realize that you tend to identify being to viewpoints, when being really is transcendent to them, and so all is One truly.

[AnthroHeart]

So God, that I've been tuning into and feeling, is Logos as well?

I find this all fascinating.

Elros, do you mainly use intuition to figure these things out, or do you have direct experience?
Have you had a transcendent experience such as enlightenment or something?

[Minyatur]

So God, that I've been tuning into and feeling, is Logos as well?

From your posts I would think so.

I find this all fascinating.

Isn't it. The mystery of our being.

Elros, do you mainly use intuition to figure these things out, or do you have direct experience?
Have you had a transcendent experience such as enlightenment or something?

A bit of both I guess. I've had many kinds of experiences, many of which I've shared here before.

[buket]

So God, that I've been tuning into and feeling, is Logos as well?

From your posts I would think so.

I find this all fascinating.

Isn't it. The mystery of our being.

Elros, do you mainly use intuition to figure these things out, or do you have direct experience?
Have you had a transcendent experience such as enlightenment or something?

A bit of both I guess. I've had many kinds of experiences, many of which I've shared here before.

What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

[Minyatur]

What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

I would think they refer to the lower-self portion of the higher-self, what incarnates across the densities.

The higher-self itself remains parallel an awareness to it.

[flofrog]

1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

both unique and united in one at the same time,    the  awesome mystery of it !

[buket]

What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

I would think they refer to the lower-self portion of the higher-self, what incarnates across the densities.

The higher-self itself remains parallel an awareness to it.

Are there portions of the higher self?

[Minyatur]

What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

I would think they refer to the lower-self portion of the higher-self, what incarnates across the densities.

The higher-self itself remains parallel an awareness to it.

Are there portions of the higher self?

Well I said we are a portion of the higher self, but mapping it would be more akin to say we are its past and it our future, existing simultaneously in the Octave's time/space.

The material describes our individualizations within the Octave as made of 3 points in a circle: one is the lower self, one is its higher self, which to the lower self is its future self, and the other is the mind/body/spirit complex totality which is the higher self's future selfness also. Beyond that I am not sure for portions, there is also the notion of Oversoul born of the synergic blending of higher selves in a social memory complex, just as a mind/body/spirit complex totality.

[Glow]

I've posted before about having two other simultaneous incarnations of the frequency of light i carry.
One I actually met and it messed us both up, ultimatley for good though. We are not this.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

Well, given that souls are multidimensional and time/space and space/time are illusions, probably yes. In fact I think I may have really ruined a good friendship with someone who may be myself in a female body...

More on THAT when I have the time to finally write my Wanderer Story...

[buket]

Well, given that souls are multidimensional and time/space and space/time are illusions, probably yes. In fact I think I may have really ruined a good friendship with someone who may be myself in a female body...

More on THAT when I have the time to finally write my Wanderer Story...

What do you mean by yourself in a female body. Ypu are a body mind spirit complex and she is another mind body spirit complex..

[Sprout]

17.13 Questioner: When I am communicating with you as Ra, are you at times [an] individualized entity or am I speaking to the entire complex?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak with Ra. There is no separation. You would call it a social memory complex thus indicating many-ness. To our understanding, you are speaking to an individualized portion of consciousness.

17.14 Questioner: Do I always speak to the same individualized portion of consciousness in each of the sessions?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak to the same entity through a channel or instrument. This instrument is at times lower in vital energy. This will sometimes hamper our proceedings. However, this instrument has a great deal of faithfulness to the task and gives whatever it has to this task. Therefore, we may continue even when energy is low. This is why we usually speak to the ending of the session due to our estimation of the instrument’s levels of vital energy.

In my opinion, if you and your brothers/sisters wander to a planet from the same social memory complex, it would be self explanatory to assume relations/similarities when meeting your kin. But again, a mind/body/spirit is a entity of it's own portion of the Creator, with it's own path, evolution, and seeking. The thought/idea that a mind/body/spirit complex and another mind/body/spirit complex is the same entity feels manipulative and lacking in free will(especially in a veiled third density experience). Eventually everything will coalesce into one, but that is not yet, and even those who brought us the Law of One do not know and seek reunification with the Creator.  

[Glow]

17.13 Questioner: When I am communicating with you as Ra, are you at times [an] individualized entity or am I speaking to the entire complex?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak with Ra. There is no separation. You would call it a social memory complex thus indicating many-ness. To our understanding, you are speaking to an individualized portion of consciousness.

17.14 Questioner: Do I always speak to the same individualized portion of consciousness in each of the sessions?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak to the same entity through a channel or instrument. This instrument is at times lower in vital energy. This will sometimes hamper our proceedings. However, this instrument has a great deal of faithfulness to the task and gives whatever it has to this task. Therefore, we may continue even when energy is low. This is why we usually speak to the ending of the session due to our estimation of the instrument’s levels of vital energy.

In my opinion, if you and your brothers/sisters wander to a planet from the same social memory complex, it would be self explanatory to assume relations/similarities when meeting your kin. But again, a mind/body/spirit is a entity of it's own portion of the Creator, with it's own path, evolution, and seeking. The thought/idea that a mind/body/spirit complex and another mind/body/spirit complex is the same entity feels manipulative and lacking in free will(especially in a veiled third density experience). Eventually everything will coalesce into one, but that is not yet, and even those who brought us the Law of One do not know and seek reunification with the Creator.  

Creation does things in infinitely vast and variable ways. It doesn't mean all beings have the same frequency of vibration(spirit) also inhabiting another mind-body complex but certainly in the vastness of infinity the creator-self would find that interesting. It is not at all manipulative if the light frequency(spirit) is ready and quite willing to shed some of it's perceived sense of separation and move into different lessons than can be had without doing so.

In my case it has taught me more than I could ever have learned any other way about non-judgement, because my own light behaves very vastly different in other life circumstances, yet still such a mirror, it set me on the path of nonduality, it has shown me how the exact same light can move towards the same goal in ways you'd never expect to lead to the same place, it led me directly into the dark night quite suddenly, but it has also led me out, it opened me to unconditional and universal unconditional love, it hasn't been an easy ride but an interesting one to be sure. it has enabled me to have a greatly interesting experience for creation.  

It means nothing about your own free will or incarnation but there is not just one way, to try and impose limits/controls on infinity is never going to work.
No need to worry though it makes you extremely uncomfortable so it is not obviously something you would be set to experience. It shook my world view but I was prepared.

[Glow]

I deleted this originally but I just looked into it further and I find it crazy fascinating.
The one alternate incarnation I know the birth date of our adeptness cycle reaches 99%+ the exact day every month even though we were born 6 months apart.

I can't help but wonder why our strongest contact days would be synchronized. I guess it's unimportant but it creates so many questions about how this works.

Previously I had thought the adeptness cycle would be something you could work around once connected with your soul frequency as if our tuning in is the limiting factor but now I'm wondering if some light frequencies are just broadcast stronger at some points.

Perhaps this would be better on a thread about the biorhythm.

[Sprout]

OR, you could live your life, and let them live theirs, you know. Just a thought.

[Glow]

OR, you could live your life, and let them live theirs, you know. Just a thought.

If that was directed at me I don’t understand what you are intending to say.

I’m not sure how it would be assumed I would be not doing the above.
Gonna put that down to some sort of human miscommunication.

[buket]

In the case of parallel incarnations (yourself in another personality) is the spirit common? Since mind and body are different in two people, if they are the same self, is the common thing in both of them is spirit?

[Glow]

In the case of parallel incarnations (yourself in another personality) is the spirit common? Since mind and body are different in two people, if they are the same self, is the common thing in both of them is spirit?

That's how it is in my case. The same frequency of light is how it's been shown to me. We all are part of one energy but there are infinite frequencies. The same energy/frequency/spirit incarnates through experience as different lives, this is similar it's just simultaneous. Time being only linear from this perspective really they are all simultaneous in a way. We are learning to transmute the same experiences but through different egos(mind/body).

[DungBeetle]

In one of Q'uo sessions someone asked if we can meet ourselves in another personality in this life. Q'uo answered it is possible. Your portions can have simultaneous incarnations in this life from different time rivers moving from one point to another.
I wonder what portion of yourself means here. And also what form is us that incarnates simultaneously in? Spirit form?

http://bigpicturequestions.com/how-does-...tion-work/

Check the pictures out in the link. That website has a ton of good stuff.

[buket]

Is this case twin flames?

[Glow]

Is this case twin flames?

Twin flame theology/ideology seems to be a tool of distraction for those nearly awake. I have been told rather clearly the theology surrounding the tf cult is not accurate and I think Q’uo says the same thing.

I don’t subscribe to the tf stuff, seems like it was put out as negative STS. propaganda promoting expectations, control and possession/ownership more than love but I can’t say if the name is where it originally came from or not.

I’d just avoid it.

[buket]

Is this case twin flames?

Twin flame theology/ideology seems to be a tool of distraction for those nearly awake. I have been told rather clearly the theology surrounding the tf cult is not accurate and I think Q’uo says the same thing.

I don’t subscribe to the tf stuff, seems like it was put out as negative STS. propaganda promoting expectations, control and possession/ownership more than love but I can’t say if the name is where it originally came from or not.

I’d just avoid it.

But the idea is the same as what q'uo mentioned. Same soul but different mind and body