An analysis of the STS mindset and path

[Ray711]

I believe we discussed this enough. There is no point to repeating arguments.

Okay. We'll agree to disagree then.

Just to clarify one point of my perspective (and I don't mean this as a counter-argument, but again, simply as clarification), I'm not denying the inherent uniqueness of every portion of the Creator. My interpretation is simply that this uniqueness can express itself through either of the given polarities. As such, while I think that some entities' uniqueness can make them lean more towards STS, it is my position that they can still apply their uniqueness on the STO path in a manner that is gratifying and fulfilling to them.

I realize that you were really looking at the linear progression up through the densities and how the STS option might work into that, and that I'm tossing in a more complex idea regarding the relationship between the 3D learning classroom and 6D balancing of consciousness leading to timelessness.  I hope you don't mind my thickening the plot.  I just find this element of more compelling interest.

I don't mind at all. Those are interesting points indeed.

I think you may right about the distillation process. Perhaps it's what separates the truly enlightened spiritual gurus from the unbalanced ones that got there through the unhealthy overcoming.

One could say that it makes for some pretty good catalyst, eh?

Damn right. xD While a part of me has faith, my rational mind is still not fully convinced of the "everything happens for a reason" idea when hearing of any such cases. On the other hand, what I've come to realize is that the soul truly values any experience as a gift of infinite worth. Literally any and all experience, to an extent that would seem masochistic to the human perspective.

[loostudent]

Regarding bias. Some bias is inherited/offered from our Logos but free will of 3. density entities is stronger as Ra said. We are not puppets. Bias is developed through exercising free will. Yes, it is a facet of Logos but freely chosen/accepted. It can also be a free denial/perversion/falsification - that which is not.

Negatives and karma. I think senior STS entities learned how to polarize and avoid karmic debt. This is done by manipulation and deception. They convince people to freely choose their slavery (by offering false freedom, advantage, wealth, health, power, pleasure ...). Just think of today's consumerism and marketing ...

[loostudent]

Is bias really recorded in spirit? Spirit is a shuttle. In case of STS mind is disconnected from spirit. First separation is self from self. Like it was said in quote before about opening the heart:

However, to one who has indeed cast aside arrogance, the voice of spirit becomes quite audible and there is a liveness of interchange that is not possible while the egoic structure of the personality shell retains its knowledge of its self-sufficiency.

https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0414.aspx

[EvolvingPhoenix]

Ra says this density is about experiencing one's desires and distilling and analyzing from these experiences? So what about those of us who aren't experiencing what we desire and have experienced the exact opposite of our desires?

[flofrog]

I'm not quite sure what or why R & U are arguing about bias.  I just want to interject that, for a returning wanderer, there is a concern for balancing, accepting and eliminating bias.  This is work--which a 6D entity may offer to the Creator--which is potentially accelerated by wandering in 3D.

I find this to be true in regards to taming wisdom by embracing love more fully, as 3d revolves around the lessons of love. But I'm not sure it applies to other kinds of balancing. Finding complete and absolute balance in every area seems like high density work that is beyond what we can aspire to, here in 3d. You said accepting the bias, which I agree with, but the "eliminating" bit sounds like the kind of "overcoming the ego" that Ra warned against (18.5):

In fact balancing is an already extremely important work in 3D,  not just about wisdom and love,  Ra advises that being highly polarized will not guarantee accessing 4D as long as there is not enough proper balance between each energy center. He doesn't say that only in one session,  but repeats it at least once in another, insisting that it is an essential point to access any of the above densities.

[Ray711]

Is bias really recorded in spirit? Spirit is a shuttle. In case of STS mind is disconnected from spirit.

I'm not sure if it's correct to say that bias is recorded in spirit, as I did, but it must be recorded somewhere, and I would say it's certain that STS entities have subconscious access to that part of themselves, as stated here:

11.9 ▶ Questioner: Are any of these people known in the history of our planet by name?

Ra: I am Ra. We will mention a few. The one known as Taras Bulba, the one known as Genghis Khan, the one known as Rasputin.

11.10 ▶ Questioner: How did they accomplish this? What was necessary for them to accomplish this?

Ra: All of the aforementioned entities were aware, through memory, of Atlantean understandings having to do with the use of the various centers of mind/body/spirit complex energy influx in attaining the gateway to intelligent infinity.

So, perhaps the connection that STS entities lose is solely that with their higher self...

Ra says this density is about experiencing one's desires and distilling and analyzing from these experiences? So what about those of us who aren't experiencing what we desire and have experienced the exact opposite of our desires?

I'm in the same boat, Phoenix. I have some thoughts which may or may not be accurate: Perhaps Ra meant that what shall be experienced will be what the soul wants to experience, rather than what the human perspective wants (the Creation being a school/playground for souls, more than anything else). Ra recommends the usage of imagination for "those desires not consonant with the Law of One"; perhaps this applies to those desires which one hasn't been able to physically experience.

I think if we take the idea of unfulfilled desires to the extreme we'll find that literally every human on Earth has unfulfilled desires. Most people are in desire of a perfectly harmonious and compassionate society, for example, which seems unlikely to happen in this incarnation. We may however use this desire as motivation to move Earth closer to Heaven in whatever small but significant ways we can, individually.

In fact balancing is an already extremely important work in 3D,  not just about wisdom and love,  Ra advises that being highly polarized will not guarantee accessing 4D as long as there is not enough proper balance between each energy center. He doesn't say that only in one session,  but repeats it at least once in another, insisting that it is an essential point to access any of the above densities.

I think we might be talking about different things being balanced. The talk was about personal biases, and I think the parts of TLOO that you're referencing are in regards to unbalanced actions such as suicide, or not accepting the honor/responsibility of one of the cosmic laws. This example comes to mind (34.17):

The sum total of this incarnation vibrationally was a slight increase in positive polarity but a decrease in harvestability due to the rejection of the Law or Way of Responsibility; that is, seeing universal love, yet still it fought on.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

Hot button issue incoming: does anyone here suspect that the cruelties experienced be animals from the meat industry influence their souls towards a negatively oriented soul path, creating a negative bias?

[Patrick]

It is recorded at the root of the tree of mind.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

That's a pretty horrifying thing to have at the root of the tree of one's mind. I feel awful for eating meat.

[Ray711]

That's a pretty horrifying thing to have at the root of the tree of one's mind. I feel awful for eating meat.

It is not my intention to take a stance on the subject of eating meat or not (I'm personally leaning in my life towards a vegetarian diet, myself), but I think an important point is that we live in a Creation where everything is interconnected, and where parts of the Creation survive and evolve by taking up energy or sustenance from other parts of the Creation. If not animal meat, we still have to survive on fruits and vegetables, which are still very much alive in their own way, and who are just as much the Creator Itself as we are, or as animals are. My personal belief is in the importance of gratitude. If an animal is eaten, then being aware and honoring the fact that that animal gave their life in order to be of sustenance to other parts of the Creation.

I definitely see a need to put a stop to the conditions of animals in the meat industry if we're to move into a more compassionate society, though.

[Patrick]

That's a pretty horrifying thing to have at the root of the tree of one's mind. I feel awful for eating meat.

I meant the biases are recorded there.

[flofrog]

In fact balancing is an already extremely important work in 3D,  not just about wisdom and love,  Ra advises that being highly polarized will not guarantee accessing 4D as long as there is not enough proper balance between each energy center. He doesn't say that only in one session,  but repeats it at least once in another, insisting that it is an essential point to access any of the above densities.

I think we might be talking about different things being balanced. The talk was about personal biases, and I think the parts of TLOO that you're referencing are in regards to unbalanced actions such as suicide, or not accepting the honor/responsibility of one of the cosmic laws. This example comes to mind (34.17):

The sum total of this incarnation vibrationally was a slight increase in positive polarity but a decrease in harvestability due to the rejection of the Law or Way of Responsibility; that is, seeing universal love, yet still it fought on.

Sorry Ray, Ra was not talking about suicide or any other specific examples but really about the process of evolution to the next density in general, and how important it was to balance the different rays of each energy center in general, to be able to incarnate in the next octave. So it was that as reviewing how one entity can access the following density and how, even though her polarization to STO or STD might be somewhat weak, the fact that the entity had worked on balancing the different energy centers (which require conscientious hard work) would make the entity able to move to fourth density.

I will look for the passages into the Ra material.

[flofrog]

Sorry, I am busy with other things too, so all apologies.

In Session 15, Ra does say how important it is to start balancing the three lower chakras to make it possible to advance evolution. I think that session was mentioned previously int his thread.  There is definitely another session where Ra underlines that a certain balance of the energy centers helps harvest, I know because it had surprised me that it was as important as polarization.

Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?
Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows. The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental.

The next energy complex, which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self- conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions toward power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex. Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

[Infinite Unity]

In my opinion STO and STS are general pathways of experience/growth. They are guiding posts for entities along the path. In mid sixth you reach unity, or a synergy between the two. Everything is not radified under the polarities. They our conditional creators of experience, that when an entity travels these paths growth occurs. The intended result is always learning/growth/experience.


Also in my opinion densities are sub layers, or the make-up of an octave. Or major experience nexus. Like how all elemental and biological aspects make-up the major experience nexus of plants, animals, and any other life that can appreciate this level/experience.

However its not as if the biological/cellular/elemental is completely displaced from the major or octavial experience. If I am damaged, the related cells are damaged, and so on.

Whats tricky about it is that, if you go far enough ahead, those octave or major structures prior, become the make-up of the next octave, or major experience.

What's even more is that each level or experience is appreciatable, and relatable to all the rest. As above so below.

[loostudent]

Finally, one may polarize very strongly /.../ by expressing the principle of universal love at the total expense of any distortion towards involvement in bellicose actions. In this way the entity may become a conscious being in a very brief span of your time/space. This may be seen to be what you would call a traumatic progression. It is to be noted that among your entities a large percentage of all progression has as catalyst, trauma.

Many here have had an immense catalyst. Rapid traumatic progression can be to positive or negative. Some jump from this springboard as mass killers despising the whole world and life itself while other take responsibility to make things better (first their own lives).

I’ve been lecturing online about the idea that responsibility is what gives life meaning, and that meaning is the antidote to … nihilism and aggression and resentment that can otherwise be produced.

There’s no doubt that life is difficult and that people get hurt and betrayed. That’s unassailable truth. You need something to offset that, and most people find that in their destiny, in their adoption of responsibility and their willingness to make their own lives … and the lives of their family better, and to contribute to the community, and to bear the burden of Being nobly. And that works. But we don’t think that way anymore. (J. B. Peterson)

[kristina]

Finally, one may polarize very strongly /.../ by expressing the principle of universal love at the total expense of any distortion towards involvement in bellicose actions. In this way the entity may become a conscious being in a very brief span of your time/space. This may be seen to be what you would call a traumatic progression. It is to be noted that among your entities a large percentage of all progression has as catalyst, trauma.

Many here have had an immense catalyst. Rapid traumatic progression can be to positive or negative. Some jump from this springboard as mass killers despising the whole world and life itself while other take responsibility to make things better (first their own lives).

I’ve been lecturing online about the idea that responsibility is what gives life meaning, and that meaning is the antidote to … nihilism and aggression and resentment that can otherwise be produced.

There’s no doubt that life is difficult and that people get hurt and betrayed. That’s unassailable truth. You need something to offset that, and most people find that in their destiny, in their adoption of responsibility and their willingness to make their own lives … and the lives of their family better, and to contribute to the community, and to bear the burden of Being nobly. And that works. But we don’t think that way anymore. (J. B. Peterson)

Many here have had an immense catalyst. Rapid traumatic progression can be to positive or negative. Some jump from this springboard as mass killers despising the whole world and life itself while other take responsibility to make things better (first their own lives).

This really resonates with me but at a very deep level. Though it seems very simple it is most profound and even harder to achieve.
I've often looked back on my own life and have peered into the life of those who have suffered greatly at the hands of others and wondered what was it that made me and some others forgive the error? What was it that set us on a path of understanding through the act of forgiveness rather than holding another in contempt and then hating them for hurting others? And what IS IT that makes one turn it's cheek and the other to act out in revenge?

[Infinite Unity]

Usually an entity lashing out, attacking, or not turning the cheek, is due to at the core. These entities are hurt, and feel as badly as the pain there dishing out.

The path that allows one to forgive, and come to understanding is the available learning that can be extracted/created from these instances. And that under given circumstances/configuration, you might possibly act or respond the same way, as all is One.

Unity is like an algebra equation. It seems all separate, yet each part effects the entire equation. What happens on one side, effects the other. As all things are one, how you act/treat others. Your mental biases and thoughts effects others, which effects you. As all is One. The Law of One is a way of understanding ourselves/phenomena.