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    12-27-2020, 03:42 PM (This post was last modified: 12-27-2020, 03:43 PM by throwawaynegative132.)
    (12-27-2020, 01:23 PM)Dtris Wrote:
    (12-27-2020, 10:21 AM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 02:30 AM)jafar Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 01:10 AM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote: Khan accepted the child that was birthed by his wife as his own when noone else would. He wanted to rest and live a quite life. It was his wife that was filled with rage, she pushed him onto that path. If you look at Khans policies you will quickly realize  he wasn't as negative as the world made him out to be. This applies to a great deal of todays elite. They are simply not evil enough. Hency why Khan is just a shipping clerk. You ever wonder what became of his first wife? The one that was known as the Grand Empress?

    3d density evil is not refined enough and you can't compare it to 4th density. Khan just like many others could have just as easily switched. There is as much good as there is evil in each and every one of us and if you take a look at Hitler's life you will see exactly the same pattern.

    Everyone and everything pushed Temujin towards that path, his father, murderer of his father, kidnapper of his wife, the chinese emperor, rivalling tribes, his own tribe, his own brother, his own best friend, his generals, the Turkic sultan etc...
    Every events of his life is well orchestrated towards that path.

    If Temujin was born into a peaceful tropical pacific island environment where everyone is peaceful and happy and food are plenty things will be totally different. On the other side if you were born within Temujin's brutal life environment will you do things differently?

    Yes we should change the term, the word 'negative' might be incorrect, we should change the word into something like, the path of the Winner! the polarity of the winner! the polarity of the conqueror! the glorious polarity!

    I don't know too much about the life story of Borte.. maybe you know more on her life story and feel free to share.
    But certainly she's not the 'one' and only 'one' who pushed Temujin into his path.. everyone and every event of his life pushed him towards his path.. the path of the winner.. the path of the conqueror.

    Everyone on 4th density STS started out at the bottom.
    Just like everyone on 3th density started out by being a weak baby.

    In STS world one might climb up the ladder by 'beating' or 'conquering' his / her master.
    In similar manner as Temujin has beat and conquered rivalling tribes and ruler.
    One might able to do that once the fear has accumulated so much thus he / she starting to find courage.

    Again I never judge STS as a 'bad' path.. STS is a valid path.. the path of the winner.. the path of the conqueror.. the glorious path..




    Quote:I say all of this because it is very tragic. The reason so many turn to the dark side is not because they are inherently evil but because the world simply broke them and more importantly it is the people who stand by and do nothing while evil is commited proclaiming themselves to be good. They are the true wolves in sheeps clothing. The undecided who are cast into Dantes Inferno.
    "Villains, crafted by the neglect of their good deeds, formed by rejection of their righteous intentions, and completed by the swift hammer of judgement of their pure souls. It is not that they were born with blackened hearts, but it was the world they tried to help that eclipsed the last bit of light that remained in their spirits. Villains are forgotten heroes, rejected saviors, good people who were neglected by those they loved."

    There are nobody which inherently evil..
    That's why STS is a path... a temporary state... in the end they will arrived at the same destination.

    If we use a metaphor of hiking...
    There are many path to the top of the mountain...
    But every path will eventually lead to the top of the mountain in the end..




    Quote:For example fourth density believes in fighting wars amongst each other but in fith density that turns out to be a delusion, similarly it turns out that in mid 6th density there were no two paths. All is one after all.

    Exactly...

    What you just said. I had an epiphany. The environment I was born into. The brutalities I had to endure trough my childhood and youth. Everything and every person I have met have brought me one inch closer to the negative. Perhaps it is like you said. Not a coincidence. Perhaps everything in my life was meant to be like this so I would be pushed towards that path.  I have never truly felt love from someone else. All I know is hatred,rage and fear. Finding love would be akin to finding a drop of water in the desert for me. That's what it's felt like my whole life. At some point it was so foreign to me that once I found it it just became blinding to me. Maybe my deep depression about the state of humanity is not about them but my denying of accepting what I have chosen for myself in this life. I never truly thought of it that way. I would have thought that positive people would incarnate into negative environments too but now that you mention it I have yet to see a single person to have done that. All the positive people I know live in happy positive environments with other happy people.  It's only me who is the opposite.  I've never known anything but fear and hatred. Over time rage built up and my inability to release that has caused a huge blockage. I am worn out. I have  chosen a negative environment but it took me a while to become deeply negative although I must say there was a bit of coldness since birth with me. Maybe this life is just to hone a blunt edge of hatred. With my distorted view it is very hard to see the truth of why I chose to be like this in this time and space.

    Not everyone who is in those environments is negative. I know plenty of people whose life sucked while young and they decided to be something different and bring love and light with them. I also know people who are wealthy, objectively happy, and are the most selfish and controlling and bring down others to build themselves up. The choice is yours, you can use the experiences to create hate and separation, or love and forgiveness. The experiences in the life and whether they are good or bad is not an indicator of a person's spiritual attainment. Most happy people are just as or less aware of the spiritual world than those who live harder lives. It is easy to be lost in the pleasures of the physical world, while the pain and obstacles often lead to looking for something more.

    I have been in a negative environment my entire life. I've grown tired of it. It broke me and I can't even piece myself back together because there is no escaping. I have tried and the future is grim for me(not talking about the world). I don't want to suffer anymore and I don' think I can any longer. I realize I might be a negative influence due to all my pessimism and negativity. I am deeply sorry for that. I see you all have a very different vibe than me. I thought maybe becoming negative myself I would be better able to endure suffering but I was deeply wrong. There is no escape to suffering. All I can think of is why I have chosen this life. From my ego perspective I absolutely can not understand it
    I must say I am simply worn out from it all. If it was up to me I'd sleep for a thousand years to recover from this life. My life is not nice. I know there are millions and billions of other people like me out there some of them way worse than me but all I can think of is how could anyone tolerate this? How could you tolerate this just to "maybe" get a reward after you die? To me it all seems like pointless suffering. This life is a form of russian roulette. I don't have faith. I really don't. How could I if even Ra mentioned that the billions of people starving around the world are doing a poor job polarizing in either direction. Too busy just trying to survive the next day. The influx of wanderers who fueled the industrial revolution have failed to give the common man the time needed to reflect and use catalyst to polarize. Instead the negative elite just used it to increase their wealth. I am drifting so I'll stop here. I can not have faith in something that keeps failing. All I'm saying is sometimes there is no higher purpose in suffering. Sometimes suffering is just pointless bullshit. And why should you do that to yourself in the first place? If it's all just mostly chance whether it works out or not...
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    12-27-2020, 06:13 PM
    (12-27-2020, 10:21 AM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 02:30 AM)jafar Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 01:10 AM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote: Khan accepted the child that was birthed by his wife as his own when noone else would. He wanted to rest and live a quite life. It was his wife that was filled with rage, she pushed him onto that path. If you look at Khans policies you will quickly realize  he wasn't as negative as the world made him out to be. This applies to a great deal of todays elite. They are simply not evil enough. Hency why Khan is just a shipping clerk. You ever wonder what became of his first wife? The one that was known as the Grand Empress?

    3d density evil is not refined enough and you can't compare it to 4th density. Khan just like many others could have just as easily switched. There is as much good as there is evil in each and every one of us and if you take a look at Hitler's life you will see exactly the same pattern.

    Everyone and everything pushed Temujin towards that path, his father, murderer of his father, kidnapper of his wife, the chinese emperor, rivalling tribes, his own tribe, his own brother, his own best friend, his generals, the Turkic sultan etc...
    Every events of his life is well orchestrated towards that path.

    If Temujin was born into a peaceful tropical pacific island environment where everyone is peaceful and happy and food are plenty things will be totally different. On the other side if you were born within Temujin's brutal life environment will you do things differently?

    Yes we should change the term, the word 'negative' might be incorrect, we should change the word into something like, the path of the Winner! the polarity of the winner! the polarity of the conqueror! the glorious polarity!

    I don't know too much about the life story of Borte.. maybe you know more on her life story and feel free to share.
    But certainly she's not the 'one' and only 'one' who pushed Temujin into his path.. everyone and every event of his life pushed him towards his path.. the path of the winner.. the path of the conqueror.

    Everyone on 4th density STS started out at the bottom.
    Just like everyone on 3th density started out by being a weak baby.

    In STS world one might climb up the ladder by 'beating' or 'conquering' his / her master.
    In similar manner as Temujin has beat and conquered rivalling tribes and ruler.
    One might able to do that once the fear has accumulated so much thus he / she starting to find courage.

    Again I never judge STS as a 'bad' path.. STS is a valid path.. the path of the winner.. the path of the conqueror.. the glorious path..



    Quote:I say all of this because it is very tragic. The reason so many turn to the dark side is not because they are inherently evil but because the world simply broke them and more importantly it is the people who stand by and do nothing while evil is commited proclaiming themselves to be good. They are the true wolves in sheeps clothing. The undecided who are cast into Dantes Inferno.
    "Villains, crafted by the neglect of their good deeds, formed by rejection of their righteous intentions, and completed by the swift hammer of judgement of their pure souls. It is not that they were born with blackened hearts, but it was the world they tried to help that eclipsed the last bit of light that remained in their spirits. Villains are forgotten heroes, rejected saviors, good people who were neglected by those they loved."

    There are nobody which inherently evil..
    That's why STS is a path... a temporary state... in the end they will arrived at the same destination.

    If we use a metaphor of hiking...
    There are many path to the top of the mountain...
    But every path will eventually lead to the top of the mountain in the end..



    Quote:For example fourth density believes in fighting wars amongst each other but in fith density that turns out to be a delusion, similarly it turns out that in mid 6th density there were no two paths. All is one after all.

    Exactly...

    What you just said. I had an epiphany. The environment I was born into. The brutalities I had to endure trough my childhood and youth. Everything and every person I have met have brought me one inch closer to the negative. Perhaps it is like you said. Not a coincidence. Perhaps everything in my life was meant to be like this so I would be pushed towards that path.  I have never truly felt love from someone else. All I know is hatred,rage and fear. Finding love would be akin to finding a drop of water in the desert for me. That's what it's felt like my whole life. At some point it was so foreign to me that once I found it it just became blinding to me. Maybe my deep depression about the state of humanity is not about them but my denying of accepting what I have chosen for myself in this life. I never truly thought of it that way. I would have thought that positive people would incarnate into negative environments too but now that you mention it I have yet to see a single person to have done that. All the positive people I know live in happy positive environments with other happy people.  It's only me who is the opposite.  I've never known anything but fear and hatred. Over time rage built up and my inability to release that has caused a huge blockage. I am worn out. I have  chosen a negative environment but it took me a while to become deeply negative although I must say there was a bit of coldness since birth with me. Maybe this life is just to hone a blunt edge of hatred. With my distorted view it is very hard to see the truth of why I chose to be like this in this time and space.

    Look please, you really need to consider not looking at things so shortsightedly.
    I was born into an extremely negative environment and with extreme brutality. Not all positive entities are born in positive environments. That is so ridiculous to even imagine. I know a lot of positive entities born in horrible families. Did it ever occur to you that you incarnated into an environment not made of luxury and pleasantries for a gigantic push toward true forgiveness and self acceptance? We are not here for vacation, we are to learn something hidden of which is many times deep within the self and oft times we learn these lessons through the crulety of others unfortunately so. Generally speaking, our most valuable lessons are not taught through moments of giddiness but rather through the hardest and most difficult of life experiences and circumstances. This is how we are finally able to tap into the nature of our true selves by knowing the shadow, the inner workings of our minds, the small human personality as well as the great, our weaknesses and our strengths. If you are truly negative there really is no need to discuss anything with us. There's loads of information how you can advance yourself toward your personal goals. You do not need us. Especially if Love is not at all what you desire and forgiveness is not sought, because more than likely, we will continue to send you love and total acceptance which is going to make you eventually lose power. So.....
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    12-27-2020, 07:25 PM
    Just to echo Ohr Ein Sof's post.

    Myself and I know many others through this sight and elsewhere came from quite brutal homes/environments. If it can be forgiven it stops Karma for the lines the negative energy traveled through. It’s a gift to 3D beings here to have karma stopped where ever it can be as it lightens the collective load.

    I know “we” aren’t always there yet. Eventually though the catalyst pushes you far enough on the path that it brings you home - unity. Those not ready it can enable them to use it to polarize STS even if that wasn’t the intention at incarnation. Still it is just a place along the path, eventually we all come home.

    If the suffering is your main clue you think you were meant to incarnate STS I would not take that at all as proof. What hardens some hearts softens other's.

    I guess that is the path of STS if one keeps using catalyst to close the heart further but sometimes it’s just the sink hole, generally an unhealed wound. I would personally take a pass on using it to close the heart as I find that no fun at all. It’s much better now that I have let myself be softened to take something horrible and instead chose to forgive, let it make you rise out of the material plane into a more beautiful spiritual awareness.

    I mean catylist sucks no matter the path but at least feeling you’ve become a kinder, gentler more compassionate person vs growing in fear/seperation. It actually feels like winning to me, something that could have made you grow towards cruelty but instead transforming it, alchemy to make you instead grow in love. Smile

    Something tells me this could be sorted for you much simpler if you could get out of the thought part of the brain. We tell ourselves stories of comparison with plots of pain and survival but if you stop time for a moment. Stop the storey and just observe the moment, not thought of future or past, not comparing it to any other, or ideas of how it’s supposed to be, each moment is actually less horrific, kind fine actually. Then we have to admit it’s our minds, our expectations and the story we tell our selfs that sucks. Smile

    Moving from the head to the heart. What you find in that awareness is a better representation of where we belong/who we are than all the thoughts and ideas in the world.

    Regardless I regret you obviously feel alone and have been wounded.
    I’m working my hardest to polarize and mop up karma because I think to many are in this state. Feeling stuck, wanderers are stuck too, it’s time soon for 3D to start a new cycle elsewhere. Hopefully it will start a bit kinder so the confusion and isolation will be less heavy. The veil to continue thinning here so those who can will liberate themselves from the confusion and become unstuck. Remember themselves.

    It’s been a hard journey ((((hug))))). You are not alone.
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    12-27-2020, 10:56 PM
    That was beautiful Glow thanks for sharing in such a clear fashion it’s a slow process I’ve found but surely worth all the effort.
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    12-27-2020, 11:24 PM
    (12-15-2020, 08:09 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: So, you judge this as the good path made of goodness? Or how would you say this? The dark path filled with darkness or how?

    In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.

    But yes polarity does exist, everything has it's exact opposite on this universe.
    Seen together they make up as 'whole', a 'unity', a 'ba gua'.

    [Image: Yin-Yang.jpeg]


    Quote:It is all a temporary state. There is but One Absolute, Infinite One. We are all on "a path", right?
    Exactly..

    Having said that, 'exploring negative polarity' will help one to understand what is it all about, by characteristics and not merely by label / name or figure. And if he/she does not resonate with it or just fed up with it he/she can then choose the 'opposite'.
    Thus by exploring a 'side' it will help one to recognize the 'other opposite side'.

    By exploring darkness it will help one to recognize light.
    As light cannot be recognized without the backdrop of darkness.

    When everyone sees good, then bad exists.
    He is good to those who are good. He is also good to those who are not good. That is the virtue of good.
    The Tao is the source of all things, it is a treasure for those who are good and a place of refuge for those who are not.

    -- Lao Tse, Tao The Ching
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    12-28-2020, 12:46 AM
    (12-27-2020, 11:24 PM)jafar Wrote: By exploring darkness it will help one to recognize light.
    As light cannot be recognized without the backdrop of darkness.

    Yes, and this happens to nearly all of us all day long and all night in the sense that--without ever going near negative polarization, necessarily--we are ever facing choices of opening up to fully flowing love and light (or as close to that as we can reach) or closing down our energy and accepting a darker experience of Creation. 

    For instance, in this moment I could choose to open to you some, but not too much, or I could choose to be as open-hearted and without distortion as I can.  As the cycles repeat and repeat, perhaps at some stage my polarity and my desire to serve will allow me to vault through this squishiness into a place of more firmly rooted recognition of self and of light?
      
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    12-28-2020, 04:12 PM
    (12-27-2020, 03:42 PM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote: ...

    All I'm saying is sometimes there is no higher purpose in suffering. Sometimes suffering is just pointless bullshit. And why should you do that to yourself in the first place? If it's all just mostly chance whether it works out or not...

    Suffering, just like any other experience, only has the meaning you give to it.

    If you believe it is pointless, it will be. If you believe it can teach you, then it will.

    Due to past experiences you might be deeply pessimistic, your thoughts are habitual as well. Your perspective is based on your beliefs and habitual thought patterns. These can be changed, with effort, to see good and joy and peace. It just takes effort and some help sometimes. This is not self delusion either, the dark side will always be present, it is just a matter of which side you decide to focus on.

    You may be tired and changing your life, your beliefs, your thoughts might be daunting. You might think that you have already tried and failed so why try again. Well, what else are you going to do? You either slowly die a miserable death, or you quickly do so, or the alternative is to change yourself and become the best version of yourself. It is slow and there will be set backs, but determination will eventually get you to your goal. Start small and do one thing at a time and before you know it you can drastically alter your life.

    You have the strength, you have the ability, but do you have the desire and the determination to see it thru?

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    12-28-2020, 06:03 PM
    (12-27-2020, 11:24 PM)jafar Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 08:09 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: So, you judge this as the good path made of goodness? Or how would you say this? The dark path filled with darkness or how?

    In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.

    But yes polarity does exist, everything has it's exact opposite on this universe.
    Seen together they make up as 'whole', a 'unity', a 'ba gua'.

    [Image: Yin-Yang.jpeg]



    Quote:It is all a temporary state. There is but One Absolute, Infinite One. We are all on "a path", right?
    Exactly..

    Having said that, 'exploring negative polarity' will help one to understand what is it all about, by characteristics and not merely by label / name or figure. And if he/she does not resonate with it or just fed up with it he/she can then choose the 'opposite'.
    Thus by exploring a 'side' it will help one to recognize the 'other opposite side'.

    By exploring darkness it will help one to recognize light.
    As light cannot be recognized without the backdrop of darkness.

    When everyone sees good, then bad exists.
    He is good to those who are good. He is also good to those who are not good. That is the virtue of good.
    The Tao is the source of all things, it is a treasure for those who are good and a place of refuge for those who are not.

    -- Lao Tse, Tao The Ching

    Quote:In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.
    Then you are missing the entire point of the 3rd density. We are here to choose a polarity. There is a negative and positive polarity one is darkness and it has been termed evil but not just by me but some of the most profound teachers. Call it what you will it makes no difference to me how you choose to label or not label something.
    No one instructs anyone to flip flop their polarity if it doesn't resonate with them. Like...oh well, I didn't plan on murdering babies and eating them. Crap I'll be positive now. It is fairly cut and dry, if you like dark things (and we all know what that entails) and you have been doing it for sometime, you may be negative and if you love sharing yourself, helping others and you live for The Creator and have been doing this for sometime you are probably positive polarity. There is one more left to acknowledge; the SINKHOLE. That's the guy that hates to suffer because its hard (wah), he doesn't have the ass to really apply himself either way, he goes from one person to another to tell his story while he sucks everyone dry of energy and still does nothing. That's probably this guy... throwawaynegative132.
    The English language is not sophisticated enough to not use comparisons and deductive/inductive reasoning. Actually, this is why we have this capability, is to make up our minds as to what is "better" for us to do and "what" it is that does resonate with us. In order to do that, you may have to use a few labels. No big deal. It really isn't. Let's face it, this individual is not a guru so I can only imagine all the pros and cons lists he makes while he ponders suffering and how everyone on the positive path are just mindless drones for this lame thing called the Creator. Ugh. Over it.

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    12-28-2020, 07:33 PM
    I wonder if there are not moments where, with unconditional love towards ourselves (!) , we do not realize that we are all of it, so we see melting within us of both our shadow and our light, and realize it is all ok, and for a split moment the paradox dissolves, and unity happens ?
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    12-28-2020, 08:03 PM
    (12-28-2020, 07:33 PM)flofrog Wrote: I wonder if there are not moments where, with unconditional love towards ourselves (!) , we do not realize that we are all of it, so we see melting within us of both our shadow and our light, and realize it is all ok, and for a split moment the paradox dissolves, and unity happens ?

    Thank you for the wake up call. Gosh. Sometimes I swear it is harder to be a tackful human aware of the feelings of others than a jerk. I can be a jerk and for that I am so sorry.
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    12-28-2020, 08:15 PM
    (12-28-2020, 06:03 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: It is fairly cut and dry, if you like dark things (and we all know what that entails) and you have been doing it for sometime, you may be negative and if you love sharing yourself, helping others and you live for The Creator and have been doing this for sometime you are probably positive polarity. There is one more left to acknowledge; the SINKHOLE.

    I wonder if the sinkhole is really the entire thing you're considering?  After all, "fairly clear cut" and "you are probably" are ways of saying, "maybe yes, maybe no."  Yes?.....No?......Maybe?


    This prompts an interesting question: how does one know when one is beyond the sinkhole?

    Of course, there's no simple, definitive answer to this, so we just have to create guesses to amuse ourselves, I suppose.  Here's my guess, for amusement's sake.  On the positive path, the heart becomes sufficiently operational so that one's entire energy system shifts into a more efficient pattern of energy flow to support a consistently positive orientation.  For the negative path, the same as above, but lust and sheer power substitute for the heart.  For those who claim to be without polarity, either the heart is a more consequential or determinative center of conscious than the lower three centers or it is not, and that would put them into one or other of the above categories.

    In sum, internal clarity about sinkhole status is confirmed when the way the energy centers support one another flips into a new alignment which palpably focuses polarity.  I'm not saying it could not happen gradually, but that one has more certainty when the shift is recognized.  And I suppose that the outward evidence of this is the change in one's posture towards catalyst, that is, one's response to catalyst becomes markedly more in alignment with one's preferred polarity?  <Maybe?>


    But then, huh, I guess that one could tell oneself that such a change has happened when it really hadn't?  Well, there goes the clarity!
       
    Your turn to guess.
       

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    #102
    12-29-2020, 02:07 AM (This post was last modified: 12-29-2020, 02:23 AM by throwawaynegative132.)
    (12-28-2020, 06:03 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:
    (12-27-2020, 11:24 PM)jafar Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 08:09 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: So, you judge this as the good path made of goodness? Or how would you say this? The dark path filled with darkness or how?

    In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.

    But yes polarity does exist, everything has it's exact opposite on this universe.
    Seen together they make up as 'whole', a 'unity', a 'ba gua'.

    [Image: Yin-Yang.jpeg]




    Quote:It is all a temporary state. There is but One Absolute, Infinite One. We are all on "a path", right?
    Exactly..

    Having said that, 'exploring negative polarity' will help one to understand what is it all about, by characteristics and not merely by label / name or figure. And if he/she does not resonate with it or just fed up with it he/she can then choose the 'opposite'.
    Thus by exploring a 'side' it will help one to recognize the 'other opposite side'.

    By exploring darkness it will help one to recognize light.
    As light cannot be recognized without the backdrop of darkness.

    When everyone sees good, then bad exists.
    He is good to those who are good. He is also good to those who are not good. That is the virtue of good.
    The Tao is the source of all things, it is a treasure for those who are good and a place of refuge for those who are not.

    -- Lao Tse, Tao The Ching

    Quote:In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.
    Then you are missing the entire point of the 3rd density. We are here to choose a polarity. There is a negative and positive polarity one is darkness and it has been termed evil but not just by me but some of the most profound teachers. Call it what you will it makes no difference to me how you choose to label or not label something.
    No one instructs anyone to flip flop their polarity if it doesn't resonate with them. Like...oh well, I didn't plan on murdering babies and eating them. Crap I'll be positive now. It is fairly cut and dry, if you like dark things (and we all know what that entails) and you have been doing it for sometime, you may be negative and if you love sharing yourself, helping others and you live for The Creator and have been doing this for sometime you are probably positive polarity. There is one more left to acknowledge; the SINKHOLE. That's the guy that hates to suffer because its hard (wah), he doesn't have the ass to really apply himself either way, he goes from one person to another to tell his story while he sucks everyone dry of energy and still does nothing. That's probably this guy... throwawaynegative132.
    The English language is not sophisticated enough to not use comparisons and deductive/inductive reasoning. Actually, this is why we have this capability, is to make up our minds as to what is "better" for us to do and "what" it is that does resonate with us. In order to do that, you may have to use a few labels. No big deal. It really isn't. Let's face it, this individual is not a guru so I can only imagine all the pros and cons lists he makes while he ponders suffering and how everyone on the positive path are just mindless drones for this lame thing called the Creator. Ugh. Over it.

    I might not be as spiritually advanced but it doesn't take a master to see that you've got some issues man. Now who's the villain? lol It's called projection.

    Instead of a healthy discord forums like this are always being drowned by people under the influence of negatives or outright negative like you. Ironically this is the difference between you and me. While I might be sick of negative feelings thoughts and emotions you chose to do the opposite. You direct it towards others trying to suck them dry of energy. Its funny since you can't do anything but personally attack people like Jafar and me instead of having a healthy discussion. This forum deserves better.
    That's about all I will say to you. People like you are not worth the trouble. That's just what they want.

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    #103
    12-29-2020, 03:47 AM
     
    I offer you all good news!  It gets so much better later on!

    Okay, it can be a miserable struggle to contain the internal discord of life lived on this tumultuous planet when one's heart is but a faintly accessible resource, but--but--but as loving ecstasy born not of the mind, but of your own essential self becomes more freely available, well, it just gets so much better than the manner in which you're experiencing self under the conditions you're in now during this phase of uncomfortable growth.

    So, please carry on bickering in the mirror, but also please do believe that your experience of self now is but a tricky transition to a far more beauteous state of intersection with comfort and care.  The keys are in your hands, even if the locks are rusted and stubborn and painful. 

    The purification of your consciousness awaits..........


    Or is it all a dream?
       
      
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    #104
    12-29-2020, 07:51 PM
    (12-29-2020, 02:07 AM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote:
    (12-28-2020, 06:03 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:
    (12-27-2020, 11:24 PM)jafar Wrote:
    (12-15-2020, 08:09 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: So, you judge this as the good path made of goodness? Or how would you say this? The dark path filled with darkness or how?

    In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.

    But yes polarity does exist, everything has it's exact opposite on this universe.
    Seen together they make up as 'whole', a 'unity', a 'ba gua'.

    [Image: Yin-Yang.jpeg]





    Quote:It is all a temporary state. There is but One Absolute, Infinite One. We are all on "a path", right?
    Exactly..

    Having said that, 'exploring negative polarity' will help one to understand what is it all about, by characteristics and not merely by label / name or figure. And if he/she does not resonate with it or just fed up with it he/she can then choose the 'opposite'.
    Thus by exploring a 'side' it will help one to recognize the 'other opposite side'.

    By exploring darkness it will help one to recognize light.
    As light cannot be recognized without the backdrop of darkness.

    When everyone sees good, then bad exists.
    He is good to those who are good. He is also good to those who are not good. That is the virtue of good.
    The Tao is the source of all things, it is a treasure for those who are good and a place of refuge for those who are not.

    -- Lao Tse, Tao The Ching

    Quote:In order to 'judge' and label anything as 'good' or 'bad' we need to take a specific perspective.
    As 'good' or 'bad' truly depends on a perspective that one is taking.
    If I don't take any specific perspective then I cannot label anything as 'good' or 'bad'.
    Then you are missing the entire point of the 3rd density. We are here to choose a polarity. There is a negative and positive polarity one is darkness and it has been termed evil but not just by me but some of the most profound teachers. Call it what you will it makes no difference to me how you choose to label or not label something.
    No one instructs anyone to flip flop their polarity if it doesn't resonate with them. Like...oh well, I didn't plan on murdering babies and eating them. Crap I'll be positive now. It is fairly cut and dry, if you like dark things (and we all know what that entails) and you have been doing it for sometime, you may be negative and if you love sharing yourself, helping others and you live for The Creator and have been doing this for sometime you are probably positive polarity. There is one more left to acknowledge; the SINKHOLE. That's the guy that hates to suffer because its hard (wah), he doesn't have the ass to really apply himself either way, he goes from one person to another to tell his story while he sucks everyone dry of energy and still does nothing. That's probably this guy... throwawaynegative132.
    The English language is not sophisticated enough to not use comparisons and deductive/inductive reasoning. Actually, this is why we have this capability, is to make up our minds as to what is "better" for us to do and "what" it is that does resonate with us. In order to do that, you may have to use a few labels. No big deal. It really isn't. Let's face it, this individual is not a guru so I can only imagine all the pros and cons lists he makes while he ponders suffering and how everyone on the positive path are just mindless drones for this lame thing called the Creator. Ugh. Over it.

    I might not be as spiritually advanced but it doesn't take a master to see that you've got some issues man. Now who's the villain? lol It's called projection.

    Instead of a healthy discord forums like this are always being drowned by people under the influence of negatives or outright negative like you. Ironically this is the difference between you and me. While I might be sick of negative feelings thoughts and emotions you chose to do the opposite. You direct it towards others trying to suck them dry of energy. Its funny since you can't do anything but personally attack people like Jafar and me instead of having a healthy discussion. This forum deserves better.
    That's about all I will say to you. People like you are not worth the trouble. That's just what they want.
    Well, I have my own truth like Jfar has her's/his. I do not need you to police my behavior. I acknowledged I came across as rough but I do not take back many of the words I wrote, only the tone in which they were written. I didn't project anything. In fact, what I said is truth, you are here to choose and, I did not "attack" anyone.
    Also, I am hardly under the influence of anything but perhaps my own misguided, emotional typings that came from my own mind. Thank you for your insight as I will use what you have said with consideration and use it to learn of myself. I do mean that.
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    #105
    08-22-2021, 05:34 AM
    (12-11-2020, 05:05 PM)KaliSouth Wrote:
    (12-10-2020, 02:48 PM)throwawaynegative132 Wrote: .... I wrote a whole thread only for it to be lost when my computer crashed. Anyways, throwaway account...I don't want anyone who knows me too see this and pretty much just want to hear people's opinion whether or not this is a viable choice....wish I could have said more but I'm mentally too tired to write down all of my thoughts again

    You don't need to justify your choices to anyone. Just choose your path and stick with it. If, after some time, you decide the STS path is no longer viable then change to the STO path. We all have to reincarnate anyway.

    Is it possible for a being to incarnate on positive planets (and progress as STO) after negative graduation?

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    #106
    08-22-2021, 08:24 AM
    Yes especially for former negative entities that just switched to the positive polarity in mid sixth density.

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    #107
    08-22-2021, 06:04 PM (This post was last modified: 08-22-2021, 06:05 PM by Nikki.)
    These are teachings in the school called earth. We are loved so much that we have been given free will to choose which side to experience. I know we probably all have to some extent, experienced our own dark side in this density. Many times we experience our own darkness but not aware we are and blame the outside or some one else. There are also laws of the universe that applies to earth. Each side are teachers, if you find one side is not for you and does not feel right, do not go there.
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