Who can we pray to?

[AnthroHeart]

I know it's based on person's faith, and I don't want to get into a religious discussion, but I feel that the God I was trusting may have let me down. When I asked his name, he told me Jehovah. Isn't that the war god from the bible?

If we want to have miracles happen in our life, and get things flowing, do we pray to our higher self, our guardian angel, source, creator? Does Creator really do anything but just experience itself?

Or are we all alone expecting to figure this out for ourselves and the responsibility for solving all our problems lies with us?

I feel alone right now, even though I remember feeling so loving yesterday. I'm out of work on disability. I try not to worry that I may lose my beloved dog at any moment. He may be taken away. But even then, is it wise to still trust in a God that you feel may have betrayed you?

Or am I just silly because I'm seeing this through the eyes of a human and I don't have a higher perspective. And that like Job from the bible shouldn't complain. I think it's alright to get upset at God.

But who can I pray to? Who can I turn to?

As the creator of my own reality, it seemed a little strange that I would decide where I wanted God to go. God is still a mystery to me.

I don't know what will happen to my "Universe" after I pass on, and leave it behind. Sometimes I feel like, what if I'm an angel of God and don't realize it? At least I've repented. God cast that demon out of me that was causing such perversion in my life.

Thank you for listening.

[Bring4th_Austin]

What is "God" to you? Do you see God was something outside, separate from you? For what do you pray? Why do you feel you have been betrayed?

I've never found it very useful to pray for things in my reality to change or happen, or for things to come or go. When I pray, I pray for understanding, I pray for strength, I pray for the realization that I have within me the ability to handle whatever life may throw at me.

I think it's a good idea to pray to the Higher Self. As Ra said, it protects when possible and guides when asked. Perhaps there are others beyond our realm who may come to our aide when we pray as well. In the end, none of these things are separate from us. There's nothing they can do for us that we cannot do ourselves, if we have the enough faith and will. They cannot give us strength that we do not already have. However, I wouldn't expect any person to be even near perfect all the time, and I have no doubt that if we pray simply to those who may be willing to help us, we will be helped in some way or another, even if it is only in helping us realize our own strength.

[Charles]

Find your comfort, and use it.

I worship and talk with A Power which loves and knows me. This One Power is eternal and infinite. And, for me, This Power is a verb, a that, and not a who.

I've a Catholic friend who finds this ridiculous, she says that God is too busy to give a damn about an individual. I find that ridiculous, but she's right, for herself, and I won't argue the point. We each have the right to believe whatever we feel is right for ourselves.

The God I worship has infinite wisdom and infinite love and infinite patience and infinite understanding, and infinite ability. This includes the ability, and the infinite interest, to care about each and every one of us. And this makes perfect sense to me. Infinite infinity.

Find what feels good and makes sense to you.

That One I worship understands me. The One I worship couldn't care less what ritual you may choose, or if you choose to use no ritual. You are known and loved. Your intent, your ethics, your honesty, your faith, are all part of an open book to That One. And that One is patient.

Gemini Wolf:

Does Creator really do anything but just experience itself?

Nope, that's all there is. But what do you suppose That is? We are ONE, and when That One Experiences ItSelf, that is the experience of ALL. You and me, every blade of grass, every bug, every saint, every sinner, and every planet in every infinite universe. That One has this infinite ability.

Experiencing you, is That One experiencing ItSelf.

Talk or whisper, shout or sing, whatever you choose.

For me, (and this is just my comfort), I feel that That One needs my love (because I need love) and that That One appreciates my gratitude for all that I have. I have friends, I have a home, I have food, I have life experience.

I have a dog, and that dog gives me honesty and beauty and love and laughter, every day. I just about always thank That One for creating the dog. And I know that you have a dog too.

That One has no name, (for me, this is my comfort), because a name is a definition, because a name describes, because a name confines, and because infinity cannot be so confined.

But I also feel that if you need a name, "Creator," "Infinite Light One," "Lord," okay. I'm not sure that "Harry" would do though. Ra calls That One "Adonai."

Adonai (add don oy) is a Hebrew word for Lord. (One of many such words.) Maybe you would prefer a Greek word (?) or choose any language. Search Google.

Find your own comfort. Your way is right and perfect for you.

[AnthroHeart]

I've stopped following Ra, because it only led to terrifying experiences.

When I was in desperate need, it was only God that gave me the Love to get through,

So I pray to that God, and accept Christ.

To me, even vibrationally, it feels right.

Whenever I ask God to hold me, I almost feel the tears come out because of such love.

A lot can change in an hour.

I can be a beacon for God's light and love.

[Oceania]

Gemini praying isn't the same as channeling.

[Karl]

I don't pray.

[Marc]

I like who Jesus said he prayed to. He prayed to the (unbegotten) Father. Also, sometimes I pray to the Sophia (mother/divine wisdom). And Christ is me. I grew up Christian so these things resonate with me more and may help you out with your background.

Jesus never prayed to jahovah/Yahweh and I try not to either because its a distorted source for me and tainted.

Here's an excerpt from the Sophia of Jesus Christ that helped me see what Jesus prayed too

The Savior said: "He Who Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world until now, except he alone, and anyone to whom he wants to make revelation through him who is from First Light. From now on, I am the Great Savior. For he is immortal and eternal. Now he is eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. Since no one rules over him, he has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another."

(BG 84, 13-17 adds: He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another).

"And he has a semblance of his own - not like what you have seen and received, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the universe. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. Since it is infinite, he is ever incomprehensible. He is imperishable and has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is eternal. He is blessed. While he is not known, he ever knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishability blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'".

Pray to whomever you see fit.

[AnthroHeart]

Thank you Marc. That clears up some things I was curious about.

[Horuseus]

I second Austins advice here. The Higher Self is the final evolved state of yourself and can be seen as your own 'Personal God'. If you wish to pray to anyone, it would be them, since 'It' is 'you' in the 'future' (If we take a linear understanding) and thus know you better than you know yourself, and what is ultimately best for you. They are involved explicitly with your Reality Creation and will Guide when asked, however your Free Will is tantamount so you must explicitly request it.

This is also the role of your Personal Guidance System. They will also Guide when asked (!) and to a lesser degree play a part with 'Manifestation' (Via Synchronicity). Note that it is your inherent right to request this service. Meditate upon communicating with your Source Guides (Not spirit guides, they are different), and especially with your Personal Guide(s) who is/are always with you. They are quite literally 'waiting' for you to open that door. Let them into your life and perform that service you contracted them for prior to incarnation.

It isn't so much about faith as much as Awareness of you who truly are, a Divine Creator in your own right. Claim it. Your reality will only reflect back what you believe about yourself. Feeling unworthy will feedback more of the same since the Universe is willing to support you in and reinforce any belief you have about yourself. It may be indicative of some balancing work which needs doing; Catalyst/Lesson for you. Have fun!

[Monica]

Gemini, I will ask your question on the radio show this Friday. We need questions anyway and it would be great to hear Carla's and Jim's answer on this.

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks Monica. Went to a Christian church today that was pretty much nondenominational. Talked with a great guy after that helped at least get me back on level ground. But I'd love to hear Carla's take on the subject.

He told me that we can know God by his character, rather than his name.

The entity that was playing with me told me his name was Jehovah.
The guy told me that war in the bible was a last resort, that people were ignoring Jehovah's warnings.
It was Jehovah that the entity was using as a name that messed with me.
So we have to be careful about the name of who we are following.

[Monica]

Thanks Monica. Went to a Christian church today that was pretty much nondenominational. Talked with a great guy after that helped at least get me back on level ground. But I'd love to hear Carla's take on the subject.

He told me that we can know God by his character, rather than his name.

The entity that was playing with me told me his name was Jehovah.
The guy told me that war in the bible was a last resort, that people were ignoring Jehovah's warnings.
It was Jehovah that the entity was using as a name that messed with me.
So we have to be careful about the name of who we are following.

If going to a Christian church gives you peace, then go for it! I would advise being careful with any old testament references, though. Christians don't know that STS entities messed with the Israelites, so they think everything in the whole Bible, including the old testament, is ok. They tend to make excuses for the genocide and tyranny in the old testament.

I have read and studied the old testament, and was shocked to discover that the entity they thought was 'God' actually commanded them to steal the land from the neighboring tribes, and slaughter all of them, even the children. It wasn't a 'last resort' but an actual command by the entity they thought was 'God.'

So do enjoy the love, praise and worship at Christian churches, but please be careful to not take in any negative teachings about the old testament. I personally would ignore anything related to the old testament and accept only the words of Jesus, whom we know was positive and love-based.

With that suggested guideline in mind, you might get wonderful benefits from going to a church. It might help keep you centered. Carla goes to church, while ignoring the dogmatic parts that don't resonate. Her chosen church isn't very dogmatic, so it's not too hard in her case. But many of the 'non-denominational' churches have their own rigid dogma, so my suggestion is to focus on the love, praise and worship, but screen out any fear-based dogma or anything that seems to glorify elitism or violence.

It's definitely a mixed bag!

If you would like to add any additional questions for Carla, please let me know! She's the one to ask on this. She can probably offer you some tips on how to have a good experience in a church, without taking in the dogma.

I see nothing wrong with praying to Jesus, if that resonates with you and makes it easier to adapt to the church. You can't go wrong with Jesus!

[Cyan]

Anyone/no-one/everyone

Take your pick

[AnthroHeart]

Thank you Monica. One step closer to finding the truth.
When I was trying to hold onto the power of "we create our reality"
it unsettled me, unbalanced me because then I feel like I'm responsible for
everything that goes on.
When I let God be God, and me be me, it seems to make things
easier. I feel more peace inside.
I'll definitely screen out the STS type fear-based teachings.
I went through personal hell before that I don't intend to repeat.
I am still trembling on the inside because of it.
But I think I am finding love.
So it's a tossup between an infinite God who is really in control of everything,
and an infinite me that is simply "veiled".
I don't know if I like the responsibility of creation handed to me.
I'm finding it hard to accept the deepest-dark parts of myself.
I choose to stop here in the love and the light. I can't go further into the love/light,
I am weary.
Though that is mostly from my past obsession with anthros. It was uncontrollable.

[Aaron]

Thank you Monica. One step closer to finding the truth.
When I was trying to hold onto the power of "we create our reality"
it unsettled me, unbalanced me because then I feel like I'm responsible for
everything that goes on.
When I let God be God, and me be me, it seems to make things
easier. I feel more peace inside.
I'll definitely screen out the STS type fear-based teachings.
I went through personal hell before that I don't intend to repeat.
I am still trembling on the inside because of it.
But I think I am finding love.
So it's a tossup between an infinite God who is really in control of everything,
and an infinite me that is simply "veiled".
I don't know if I like the responsibility of creation handed to me.
I'm finding it hard to accept the deepest-dark parts of myself.
I choose to stop here in the love and the light. I can't go further into the love/light,
I am weary.
Though that is mostly from my past obsession with anthros. It was uncontrollable.

There is no separation between you and any God.

It's difficult to accept the darkest reflections of ourselves and to give them as much credibility, acceptance, and recognition as the light parts of ourselves.

But the power of choice between the two always lies with you. Becoming aware of this and how it relates to all aspects of yourself, and then making that choice, can put you on a secure ground.

[AnthroHeart]

Aaron, I sure do feel separate from God.
I think recognizing our oneness will take some time.
But I feel I am moving in the right direction.
At least I eliminated some perversions,
which makes me feel better about myself.

Aaron, it's definitely difficult to accept the dark parts of yourself
when they mentally take you and violently shake you like a ragdoll,
or when it feels like your body is descending into bone-crushing density
and it looks like your flesh is being burned.

[Bring4th_Austin]

When I was trying to hold onto the power of "we create our reality"
it unsettled me, unbalanced me because then I feel like I'm responsible for
everything that goes on.
When I let God be God, and me be me, it seems to make things
easier. I feel more peace inside.

I've struggled with a sort of paradox myself, faced with the information and resonance that I am all things, and yet things seem to happen all the time which, if I were "the Creator," I would be responsible for...but I cannot control the actions of others despite the lack of separation between myself and Creator. The ultimate realization for me is that there is responsibility to be had in the role that we are playing within this reality. Anything we experience cannot be separate from us. We only have any type of experience because we have things to relate to, yet all of these things are really in our mind because that is where we experience them.

In realizing this, I feel comfortable holding up the responsibility of my own role in the situation. What can I do about the reality around me? Take responsibility for the reality within me and the rest will simply flow through me. I can feel safe knowing that I have responsibility in this experience, yet relax in knowing that this experience is a ride that I'm on. Like what you said, let God be God and let me be me, however paradoxical it may seem.

[Aaron]

Aaron, I sure do feel separate from God.
I think recognizing our oneness will take some time.
But I feel I am moving in the right direction.
At least I eliminated some perversions,
which makes me feel better about myself.

Aaron, it's definitely difficult to accept the dark parts of yourself
when they mentally take you and violently shake you like a ragdoll,
or when it feels like your body is descending into bone-crushing density
and it looks like your flesh is being microwaved.

Turning your will towards the recognition of unity among self, other-self, and Creator is probably the most powerfully effective ways one can deal with catalyst. It's also probably the least distorted action one can take in this density. Living in recognition of this oneness requires a lifetime's work, but the will can be turned towards it at any time.

Do you feel like these "perverted" thoughts come from a place other than self? They may come from negative "outside" influence, but if so, then it might be made possible by your fear and non-acceptance of those possibilities within yourself.

That experience you describe sounds horrible... And nobody deserves that kind of treatment. When I was being manipulated by a negative entity in ways that were energetically uncomfortable (I'm sensitive like you), the big realization that allowed that to stop was that I in no way deserve that treatment. It was an orange ray issue and I was, unbeknownst to my conscious mind, holding the subtle belief that I had done something to deserve that kind of treatment, that the entity causing me the discomfort had the right to do so. That wasn't the case... The entity was simply using its will, and I was not using mine. I realized that I am the Creator and I deserve respect and love. I realized that there is nothing within myself that requires me to be ashamed, no matter how dark or perverted it may seem. All is the Creator and the self is perfect.

[C-JEAN]

Hi Gemini Wolf, and all.

From experiences, and readings, and films, I can tell you this short answer:

You don't have to "pray to".
You only have to "have the intention", and it will do the trick.

Look in the older posts, or ask in a post of yours,
about intention experiments, there:
http://community.theintentionexperiment.com

I got this "intention" info from the 1st line of my signature. B-)

Blue skies.

[Ankh]

Ra called praying "faculty of will":

...the faculty of will called praying is also of a potentially helpful nature. Whether it is indeed an helpful activity depends quite totally upon the intentions and objects of the one who prays.

[AnthroHeart]

Turning your will towards the recognition of unity among self, other-self, and Creator is probably the most powerfully effective ways one can deal with catalyst. It's also probably the least distorted action one can take in this density. Living in recognition of this oneness requires a lifetime's work, but the will can be turned towards it at any time.

Do you feel like these "perverted" thoughts come from a place other than self? They may come from negative "outside" influence, but if so, then it might be made possible by your fear and non-acceptance of those possibilities within yourself.

That experience you describe sounds horrible... And nobody deserves that kind of treatment. When I was being manipulated by a negative entity in ways that were energetically uncomfortable (I'm sensitive like you), the big realization that allowed that to stop was that I in no way deserve that treatment. It was an orange ray issue and I was, unbeknownst to my conscious mind, holding the subtle belief that I had done something to deserve that kind of treatment, that the entity causing me the discomfort had the right to do so. That wasn't the case... The entity was simply using its will, and I was not using mine. I realized that I am the Creator and I deserve respect and love. I realized that there is nothing within myself that requires me to be ashamed, no matter how dark or perverted it may seem. All is the Creator and the self is perfect.

I didn't recognize that I didn't deserve that kind of treatment, all the way up till the end when I ended up stabbing my dog thinking I was doing it for God. After that, and when I was on my meds, it slowly started fading. I realize I am worthy, and I don't have to go through torture for the purpose of becoming an anthro. I thought I had to go through these trials in order to become an anthro. I was fooled. But I realize more now to have pride in myself. For me it was discovering (on some level), what was I willing to do to become an anthro? I don't have that desire anymore.

[theknowone]

God is the life, the light and the universe around us all and is silent. But if u look hear and feel the world u can see the silent ones work and hear the word.

[AnthroHeart]

Aaron, I realize now that if we exercise our will on not having to experience those things that we dislike, that we won't have to experience them. I'm talking on part of being influenced by an STS entity.

Austin, I'm learning to take responsibility for the reality within me. When I was in "creation mode" I was just working to make things happen without thinking about the ramifications of them. I think much of what I experienced was a simulation. I've had them before. I sure hope it was, as some pretty wicked stuff came out of it. Well, the hurting my dog unintentionally was real, but what the STS entity put me through could have been avoided had I been more aware.

[Jeremy]

Gemini I have to ask and I mean no ill harm in this at all but given the fact that you were in a schizophrenic and dare I say psychotic breakdown of your life, how can you be so sure it was these STS entities and not your own mind manifesting these supposed entities?

Have you entertained the possibility that it was in your own head and the main way to dealing with this is to accept responsibility of a very horrific period of your life instead of putting it on all STS entities?

Like I said, I mean no harm but I'm really curious how you can differentiate the two when you clearly weren't of stable mind during that time?

[AnthroHeart]

Xradfl, you make a good point. I can't know for sure, but in talking with others, I was convinced it was another STS being. I was in dialogue with them, and heard voices, so I thought it was so. Needless to say I'm back on my meds, and they're carrying me nicely. Been back on them for 2 months now. But it requires me to be more realistic, and give up the notion of "furry universe" and "furrry sun" within me, and be more practical. I need to get grounded, instead of having these delusions of grandeur. Thanks for bringing that up. It's no big deal. I'm learning as I go.

[Jeremy]

Yea just BE bother. When I first found this material, I had grand plans of becoming a channel, ascending to some higher being where I could create light in the palms of my hands, etc. then after a while, I realized I don't need anything special. I'm no better than everyone else and my actions will reflect my love and dedication to the creator and to other selves. Simply being present in the moment, praying/praising upon waking, having a constant smile on my face, and treating others with love really is the best that you can do. All else that may manifest during your incarnation is simply icing on the cake.

[AnthroHeart]

I recall when I asked Ra to show me their stillness, I felt an intense download in my 3rd eye. I'm not sure if that was another being or not, but looking back now, it certainly wasn't stillness. It would eventually pave the way for me to become even more distorted. Each of my experiences in seeking less distortion, I end up finding or creating more distortion. So I don't know how to purposefully go after less distortion. Just BEing is certainly easier to imagine than to do. I'm too much of a thinker and a worryier in my daily activities. But I am treating others with more love as you said. The first years of my life have been easy, then it suddenly got hard.