Myers Briggs: Wanderers

[vervex]

are the INs a small percentage in general or why is it i always hear about the IN types being so rare?

Hey Oceania,

I found these stats on the web in relation to the Myers Briggs results: http://www.theanconas.com/MBTI/mfstats.htm / http://www.statisticbrain.com/myers-briggs-statistics/

Although it is not written, I want to assume the stats are from the US (to be verified). I and E seem to be sharing each ~50% of the population, however the rarest property is the intuitive N. Therefore, EN and IN are less common than ES and IS.

On Wikipedia, you can find an explanation of Intuition vs Sensing:

Sensing and intuition are the information-gathering (perceiving) functions. They describe how new information is understood and interpreted. Individuals who prefer sensing are more likely to trust information that is in the present, tangible, and concrete: that is, information that can be understood by the five senses. They tend to distrust hunches, which seem to come "out of nowhere".[1]:2 They prefer to look for details and facts. For them, the meaning is in the data. On the other hand, those who prefer intuition tend to trust information that is more abstract or theoretical, that can be associated with other information (either remembered or discovered by seeking a wider context or pattern). They may be more interested in future possibilities. For them, the meaning is in the underlying theory and principles which are manifested in the data. - Wikipedia.org

[BlatzAdict]

whoa I am ENFP

I used to always get INFP

I guess the past year has also changed me too.

[Parsons]

Yep, same results:

Introverted (I) 73.53% Extroverted (E) 26.47%
Intuitive (N) 65.71% Sensing (S) 34.29%
Thinking (T) 67.74% Feeling (F) 32.26%
Perceiving (P) 60.61% Judging (J) 39.39%

[reeay]

INFP and ENFP are very different according to Jungian functional ordering. The dominant and auxiliary functions are different for ENFP (Ne-Fi) and INFPs (Fi-Ne). Tertiary and inferior functions are different... ENFP (TeSi) and INFP (SiTe).

ENFP (Ne-Fi-Te-Si)
Dominant: Extraverted Intuition (Ne)
Auxiliary: Introverted Feeling (Fi)
Tertiary: Extraverted Thinking (Te)
Inferior: Introverted Sensing (Si)

INFP (Fi-Ne-Si-Te)
Dominant: Introverted Feeling (Fi)
Auxiliary: Extraverted Intuition (Ne)
Tertiary: Introverted Sensing (Si)


Extraverted Intuition (Ne)

Extraverted Intuition scans the external world to explore new ideas, new people, and emergent possibilities. The Extraverted Intuitive mind is imaginative, inventive, and innovative - seeing and describing ways things can be reshaped, altered, or improved. It naturally energizes people and engages action towards a vision of what could be . . . of future possibilities.

Introverted Feeling (Fi)

Introverted Feeling is being aware of and cherishing one’s own mental framework of values, beliefs and sense of self. It is being open to emotions and inner sensations. It is also being sensitive to others in an empathetic way. It is knowing what is right and wrong according to one’s personal moral and spiritual compass. It is being authentic. As a gatekeeper of the mind; it admits what is consistent with one’s value and belief framework and rejects what is repulsive or draining. Introverted Feeling seeks harmony with others and harmony within.

Extraverted Thinking (Te)

Extraverted Thinking's focus is order. It is organizing and ordering the outside world; organizing both people and things to achieve a purpose. It is using logic and reasoning in dialogue with others. It is directing action, calling plays, and making decisions. It is purposeful sorting out; discriminating among alternatives. Extraverted Thinking asks questions, collects information in an orderly way, and solves problems in a systematic manner.

Introverted Sensing (Si)

The Introverted Sensing mind attends to, enjoys acquiring, and relying upon an internal library of detailed personal knowledge, facts, feelings, sensations, and information gleaned from experiences. Information and impressions from present experiences are archived in an orderly way into memory - which is typically a vast internal storehouse of data, details and impressions. The Introverted Sensing mind seeks rhythm, reliability, and order in its internal library and in its relationships with people and the outside world.

http://www.personalitypathways.com/16-pe...ypes2.html

[Horuseus]

Been an INTJ for as long as I remember. The distinction does seem to be less pronounced these days though.

[AnthroHeart]

Think I'm an INTP, but not sure. I'm unusually sensitive in certain situations.

[Vasistha]

An interesting test.

Introverted (I) 65.71% Extroverted (E) 34.29%
Intuitive (N) 60% Sensing (S) 40%
Thinking (T) 54.84% Feeling (F) 45.16%
Perceiving (P) 54.29% Judging (J) 45.71%

The more the person introverted, the stronger the ego. If you hide your own personality to yourself, how can others even have a chance to mirror it back to you?

I think it would be best if all of those reach something like 50%/50% for the N/S;T/F;P/J, aside from the first (I/E), which have it's own pro and con without going to the extreme.

INTP - "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood. 3.3% of total population.

INTP:

loner, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, wrestles with the meaninglessness of existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, familiar with the darkside, skeptical, acts without consulting others, does not think they are weird but others do, socially uncomfortable, abrupt, fantasy prone, does not like happy people, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, acts without planning, guarded, not punctual, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm


Favored careers:

philosopher, game designer, scientist, software engineer, freelance artist, research scientist, assassin, freelance writer, physicist, software developer, mathematician, geologist, computer scientist, philosophy professor, webmaster, slacker, medical researcher, painter, mortician, systems analyst, comic book artist, computer technician, website designer, scholar, archeologist, computer repair, forensic anthropologist, astronaut, researcher, historian, systems engineer, genetics researcher, astronomer, environmental scientist, egyptologist

Note: My first job was slacker, then computer repair, then website designer, webmaster, then software engineer/computer scientist, now much more going toward philosopher/freelance writer. Always wanted to be game designer in my youth. It is reassuring to see that I may have a future in the assassin business.

I had a good laugh and it was interesting.

[Spaced]

Nice Vasistha, that seems to sum me up fairly well too. I'm a professional slacker these days, but all the stuff I went to school for is in that list of favoured careers

[Horuseus]

Note: My first job was slacker, then computer repair, then website designer, webmaster, then software engineer/computer scientist, now much more going toward philosopher/freelance writer.

I had to chuckle a little at this. My career 'path' pretty much parallels yours to the t. Currently an undergrad Software Engineer but I'm finding myself favoring other pursuits such as writing and the philosophies funnily enough.

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[vervex]

Favored careers:

philosopher, game designer, scientist, software engineer, freelance artist, research scientist, assassin, freelance writer, physicist, software developer, mathematician, geologist, computer scientist, philosophy professor, webmaster, slacker, medical researcher, painter, mortician, systems analyst, comic book artist, computer technician, website designer, scholar, archeologist, computer repair, forensic anthropologist, astronaut, researcher, historian, systems engineer, genetics researcher, astronomer, environmental scientist, egyptologist

Note: My first job was slacker, then computer repair, then website designer, webmaster, then software engineer/computer scientist, now much more going toward philosopher/freelance writer. Always wanted to be game designer in my youth. It is reassuring to see that I may have a future in the assassin business.

I had a good laugh and it was interesting.

Eheh I can recognize myself a lot in that as well! Seems like they got the INTP profile quite right
I'm personally always doing lots of things and these include freelance artist, (blog) writer, webmaster, painter and website designer. In the past I've considered going towards archeology, anthropology and astronomy. As for philosophy, well, aren't we all philosophers here?

[cosmiclady]

INFP/INTP here. These results were obtained quite a few years ago.

[Vasistha]

You will obviously see that almost all the members of this board (if not the totality) are all INT, or at least were INT as some point. (which is about 5% of the total population).

INT (Introversion, iNtuition, Thinking)

First, a spiritual seeker is much more prone to introversion. They understand the value of silence/meditation/contemplation. Wanderers who had a difficult time to understand others/this world in their youth are much more likely to even 'close' more on themselves, which lead to more introversion. They quickly notice that their own mode of thinking/working is different than others, and tend to shut down.

Second, without relying on your intuition in this density, your spiritual progress are going to have a seriously hard time. Again, the spiritual seeker/wanderer learn to rely on intuition.

Finally, most wanderers come from higher densities (5D/6D). They have extremly rational logical mind. If you do not have a certain sense of logic, there is almost no way that the Ra material can resonate with you. The complexity of the language and the precision is not for the non rational-logical.

An entity called Ra? the egyptian god? Seriously? Remember your first impression. Who start by saying 'I am Ra, we communicate now'?

Until you read some sessions and your mind is blown by the precision of the language and the rationality of the thoughts.

Eheh I can recognize myself a lot in that as well! Seems like they got the INTP profile quite right
I'm personally always doing lots of things and these include freelance artist, (blog) writer, webmaster, painter and website designer. In the past I've considered going towards archeology, anthropology and astronomy. As for philosophy, well, aren't we all philosophers here?

As for philosophy, It really depends on your own definition of the word. It used to mean 'love of wisdom'. Those days, people take philosophy for a mind exercice that is totally abstract and seriously not to be practiced in your daily life. Rather, they concern themselves with political issues and avoid totally religious oriented one. The true meaning of philosophy has been lost somewhere.

Yes, we are all philosophers here

[Parsons]

The more the person introverted, the stronger the ego. If you hide your own personality to yourself, how can others even have a chance to mirror it back to you?

You clearly haven't met me before. I am very strong introverted and have almost no ego to speak of. I balance my introversion with a strong sense of self-responsibility and somewhat self-deprecating attitude. I mirror my own personality back to me myself by being extremely detached to the point where I try to observe myself in the 3rd person. In fact, for the majority of my life I cared about the wants and needs of others over my own (to my own detriment).

I have bolded personality traits I am prone to:

INTP - "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood. 3.3% of total population.

INTP:

loner, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, wrestles with the meaninglessness of existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, familiar with the darkside, skeptical, acts without consulting others, does not think they are weird but others do, socially uncomfortable, abrupt, fantasy prone, does not like happy people, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, acts without planning, guarded, not punctual, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm


Favored careers:

philosopher, game designer, scientist, software engineer, freelance artist, research scientist, assassin, freelance writer, physicist, software developer, mathematician, geologist, computer scientist, philosophy professor, webmaster, slacker, medical researcher, painter, mortician, systems analyst, comic book artist, computer technician, website designer, scholar, archeologist, computer repair, forensic anthropologist, astronaut, researcher, historian, systems engineer, genetics researcher, astronomer, environmental scientist, egyptologist

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You will obviously see that almost all the members of this board (if not the totality) are all INT, or at least were INT as some point. (which is about 5% of the total population).

INT (Introversion, iNtuition, Thinking)

First, a spiritual seeker is much more prone to introversion. They understand the value of silence/meditation/contemplation. Wanderers who had a difficult time to understand others/this world in their youth are much more likely to even 'close' more on themselves, which lead to more introversion. They quickly notice that their own mode of thinking/working is different than others, and tend to shut down.

Second, without relying on your intuition in this density, your spiritual progress are going to have a seriously hard time. Again, the spiritual seeker/wanderer learn to rely on intuition.

All true... I was just thinking about this a few days ago and reviewed the MBTI Poll thread. I noticed out of 43 people who voted, there were only 4 extroverts, and 3 Sensors (as opposed to those using iNtuition).

[Taco]

Got INFP

[Parsons]

I was reexamining this more closely today and determined cognitive functions:

The default was Ti, Ne, Si, Fe, but for me personally I came up with:

Dominant: Introverted thinking (Ti)
Ti seeks precision, such as the exact word to express an idea. It notices the minute distinctions that define the essence of things, then analyzes and classifies them. Ti examines all sides of an issue, looking to solve problems while minimizing effort and risk. It uses models to root out logical inconsistency. Ti is calm, articulate, and aware of the forces that bind reality together. As introverted thinkers, INTPs spend the majority of their time and energy ordering the interior, logical world of principles and generalizations in an effort to understand.

Auxiliary: Introverted sensing (Si)
Si collects data in the present moment and compares it with past experiences, a process that sometimes evokes the feelings associated with memory, as if the subject were reliving it. Seeking to protect what is familiar, Si draws upon history to form goals and expectations about what will happen in the future. Si gives INTPs the potential for keen observation. They use this function to gather empirical data, use physical tools, perceive physical relationships, and support their internal logic with a rich sense of space.

Tertiary: Extraverted intuition (Ne)
Ne finds and interprets hidden meanings, using “what if” questions to explore alternatives, allowing multiple possibilities to coexist. This imaginative play weaves together insights and experiences from various sources to form a new whole, which can then become a catalyst to action. Ne gives INTPs a grasp of the patterns of the world around them. They use their intuition to amalgamate empirical data into coherent pictures, from which they can derive universal principles. INTPs frequently puzzle over a problem for hours on end, until the answer suddenly crystallizes in a flash of insight.

Inferior: Extraverted feeling (Fe)
Fe seeks social connections and creates harmonious interactions through polite, considerate, and appropriate behavior. Fe responds to the explicit (and implicit) wants of others, and may even create an internal conflict between the subject’s own needs and the desire to meet the needs of others. Fe drives the INTP to desire harmony in community. At their most relaxed, INTPs can be charming and outgoing among friends, or when they have a clearly defined role in the group. When under stress, however, INTPs can feel disconnected from the people around them, unable to use their extraverted Feeling to reach out to others. As their inferior function, Feeling can be a weak point; when threatened they will hide behind a wall of stoic logic. This can lead them to bottle up their emotions to preserve reason and harmony; but a failure to deal with these concealed emotions can lead to inappropriate outbursts.

[dindar]

I'm curious whether there is a predominate Myers-Briggs personality type for wanderers, or whether wanderers with specific soul group/social memory complex associations identify with specific Myers-Briggs types.

I am an INTJ.

Here is a link to the test if you haven't taken it:

http://similarminds.com/jung.html

I am little extroverted and i like these personality tests.

I have borderline personality according to http://illnessquiz.com/borderline-personality-test/

[Reaper]

Depends on which personality I'm wearing. Today it's INTJ.

[BlatzAdict]

I've gotten INFP in the past, and did so again right now.

high five

i'm infp too. 

[ada]

ENTP, whatever that is ..

[Parsons]

People who are fairly new, please don't forget to vote in the poll: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3990

I'm very interested in statistical data on people who awake and / or are wanderers (the population of this forums). It appears there is definitely a bias in personality types when it comes to us.

[ChickenInSpace]

I usually get 50/50 something or another. It varies. Nowadays the test feels pretty useless since I end up so far into the middle (oxymorons, yay!) that the script has trouble placing me in one category or another.

[Glow]

whoa I am ENFP

I used to always get INFP

I guess the past year has also changed me too.

ME too. I used to be an introvert but running my own business I've had to become outgoing enough that I am pretty comfortable now. ENFP here too. Mind you it was 55%E 45%I so not a landslide or anything.

[Spiritualchaos]

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