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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density March 21, 2013?!?!?!?

    Thread: March 21, 2013?!?!?!?


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    03-14-2013, 06:01 AM
    (03-14-2013, 01:47 AM)hogey11 Wrote: What if the 'transition' happens like how Jesus' supposed 'resurrection' happened? In the biblical story, there was no body left behind, but a transfigured and super-powered Jesus walking around instead. Maybe the transition to 4D will be the same for the first/few transitionals that actually achieve it; they just wake up 'different' one day. Maybe they "die" for a few days first - I don't know

    Exactly that had I also in mind. Ra said, that in order to graduate into 4D, you need to physically die. The way I imagine this is: physical vehicle must be put to a total rest, must be shouted down for some time. Just like if you put new advanced hardware (mother-board) into your computer; or like Jesus and Neo did. But the question is, how long that "total rest" needs to be? If it's too long, they could put your physical body already into ashes, and that would not be cool :-). And to find location, where you can be "dead" for three (3) days is pretty hard this days; in few hours would be possible, but days I don't imagine.

    In that way, yes, I also do imagine, few ppl could graduate -- not that's really important, but just not to be too rigid and to leave that possibility open.

    Sri Ramakrishna (hope you don't mind bringing that up) said:
    Sri Ramakrishna Wrote:"In the top of the head is the seventh plane. When the mind rises there, one goes into samadhi. Then the Brahmajnani directly perceives Brahman. But in that state his body does not last many days. He remains unconscious of the outer world. If milk is poured into his mouth, it runs out. Dwelling on this plane of consciousness, he gives up his body in twenty-one days. That is the condition of the Brahmajnani."

    What is exactly what Ra said: "If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the thirddensity electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility."

    Sri Ramakrishna says further, something like: that only those spiritual per-son-s(/avatars) who have mission to teach, can keep their body for the benefit of the mankind. -- But that was when earth was still 3D, now earth is 4D, so maybe it means that more aspirants can keep their body; if they want to, of course.



    (03-14-2013, 01:47 AM)hogey11 Wrote: I expect a few other things needing to happen before any major shifts... unless there is some sort of cosmic 'on switch' that hasn't yet been pressed. I see the 'transition' as being a generational thing.

    I think it's both. It's a process, and it's a jump. Something like:

    Notice there's jump at certain frequency, at "key threshold resonance" as they call it, although frequency is always constantly rising! Pretty impressive.
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    03-14-2013, 01:54 PM
    Thanks for fleshing out the idea, Lemurian! I agree and found your take very interesting. I'm always happy to hear takes from different religious systems too (as i'm not as familiar as I am with the Yahweh religions). My appreciation for the vedic traditions continues to grow Smile

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    03-14-2013, 02:24 PM
    Just another date for people who want dates. If any change does occur, it will be subtle and obvious only to those who are balanced and capable of seeing what is hidden from plain sight. Those looking for a quick escape into Narnia will be disappointed once again.

    I believe that things are happening every single day now, and that the harvest has been not at the doorstep but actively happening for years now. All days and numbers are sacred when viewed as such.
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    03-14-2013, 02:46 PM
    (02-17-2013, 03:19 PM)Ashim Wrote: I have no desire to repeat the 'death/rebirth' cycle.

    (02-17-2013, 03:37 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I have no desire either to repeat death/rebirth Ashim.

    What makes you think there is no incarnational death/rebirth in 4D (or even 5D or 6D)?

    (02-24-2013, 08:25 AM)TheInfinite1 Wrote: The harvest is now. Many of you, my brothers and sisters, have the desire to simply ascend into fourth density. Yet, the third density body must be left behind as it will not be compatible.

    Exactly. Metaphysically speaking, early 4D may be here now, but just as a 2nd-density canine or feline entity may dwell within a 3rd-density "human" environment it is still a 2nd-density entity "locked" into 2nd-density. The 2D body must be shed and a matching 3D one must be "put on" in order to properly access and partake of a 3rd density reality/illusory experiential matrix. Same applies to our present 3D-to-4D transition. 3D body must be changed by death/rebirth or be otherwise completely transmuted. Death, of course, is a far simpler process.


    (02-24-2013, 02:49 PM)kdsii Wrote: One thing I've learned from these dooms-dates is that they willl NOT happen. Why? Well, why would we want to be whisked away to another world, escaping all our problems?

    Then you are far ahead of the game, brother.

    (03-14-2013, 02:24 PM)Brittany Lynn Wrote: Just another date for people who want dates. If any change does occur, it will be subtle and obvious only to those who are balanced and capable of seeing what is hidden from plain sight. Those looking for a quick escape into Narnia will be disappointed once again.

    Precisely.

    Or have you all thought the pollution and toxicity and self-inflicted damage was simply going to vanish away with a magical poof and a beautiful green Eden would appear in it stead? Oh, that would be awesome, wouldn't it? Playing the old Pontius Pilate washing his hand so as to say "I am not responsible for this" and then be instantly rewarded with the mystical Shangri'La? What about all the mountains of trash and junk and waste stacking up upon the face of the earth or clogging up in the depths of the ocean? What about all the massive, colossal, gargantuan edifices of steel and concrete and all the pavement roads and highways that permeate every major urban, metropolitan area and megacity? What about the millions upon millions of transportation and cargo vehicular machines like automobiles, trains, and ships? Where is that all going to go? You think you can just toss it all into the recycle bin and hit delete? Think trees and flowers are simply going creep up and overrun the cities converting them into natural paradises and love spas?

    This is not intended to promote pessimism, but rather to offer a reality-check. To believe the planet will spontaneously turn into a heavenly garden in a 24-hour period is... well, childish, to say the least. It is only wishful thinking.

    There exist probability/possibility vortices that may always change the flow and promptitude of events, but we're either looking at a 100-or-so year transition preceded by major natural "catastrophes" that increase and magnify in frequency and intensity over a period of time (together with intensified social upheaval and civil unrest), perhaps culminating with a pole shift or... a 700+ year much "slower" but less "traumatic" transition without many natural or planetary "disasters." For what it's worth, this remains being my intuitive calculation.

    Either way, our 3D physical vehicles are, at some point or another, and out of 3rd-density necessities, going to expire, whether naturally or accidentally. At that point some will have fulfilled the contract, so to speak, and leave this 3rd-density experiential nexus to return to their native density. Those who stay with this planet, remember one need not re-incarnate immediately after death. Re-incarnation may occur perhaps 100 or 700 or 2,100 years from now, depending on opportunity and teach/learning needs.

    Either way, this planet is quickly becoming a 4th-density sphere.

    Neither one of us is here by mistake, but for a reason.

    Go forth then, rejoicing in the love and light of the One Infinite Creator.

    Adonai,
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    03-21-2013, 06:24 PM
    Ho-humm, I can't find any more doomsday dates. I think we've seen em all!

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    03-21-2013, 06:34 PM
    Lol today I had great vibes for a doomsday.

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    03-21-2013, 07:16 PM
    creating my own community has been the most important thing since 12 21

    while i do not like eating as i find it annoying, i do like to spend time with my friends who i consider my family and frequently like to have dinner together with them.
    While my body is still 3D I can still live by 4D principles and wisdom.
    Of course I still ponder at the 6th density level constantly thinking about polarities, i find that all of the channelings and all of the false hope only instilled a greater fire in me to create the kind of world i want to see

    that is why i started a Law of One meet up called austin ascension lightworkers. i decided to make it or break it, and if there was no community of likeminded Law of One readers then i would make one

    Aren't you guys just sick of sitting around and waiting? I think that was the lesson that was garnered reading about OPPT and channelings and stuff. While I still subscribe to channelings I only like to share the ones that focus on self growth as opposed to prophesized changes. f*** that.

    To bring about the changes we need a change in perception, less emphasis on the past and the future, and more emphasis on the now, and what kind of situations we are creating moment by moment. catalyst by catalyst.

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    03-21-2013, 07:44 PM
    @ Blatzaddict what world would you like to see?

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    03-21-2013, 07:58 PM
    (03-21-2013, 07:16 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: Aren't you guys just sick of sitting around and waiting? ...To bring about the changes we need a change in perception, less emphasis on the past and the future, and more emphasis on the now...

    One contradicts the other. Tongue

    I am pretty content with how things are.

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    03-21-2013, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 09:18 PM by BlatzAdict.)
    (03-21-2013, 07:44 PM)rie Wrote: @ Blatzaddict what world would you like to see?

    a world where we can all destroy our social barriers and become as one!

    not literally become one person but many acting in concert together with compassion for one another. That is the essence of 4D society.

    we may not all have the same levels of understanding toward life, but we can try to understand each other and accept each other in order to work together.

    Since it is on the heart level, we must raise ourselves high enough to reach the new level of operation. From 3d dualistic, seperation, light and dark thinking team a vs team b to 4d compassion and working together, self respect as well as respect for others.

    And it starts with you it starts with just making sure to feel love in the moment, every moment. just that one smile and brighten one soul's day, just that one nice gesture because you were not caught up with the self and awake enough to percieve all that around you, all of creator as creation around you.

    All of it so sensitive to your thoughts and emotions. If you just as a wanderer imagine sending that love outwards farther than your own personal spheres. all the densities respond whether conscious or unconscious.

    everyday should be filled with bliss as we realize each moment each interaction each thing in our lives is a catalyst for our own personal learning, and as we recognize that we not only pierce the veil, we catalyze that much faster, since time is faster.


    http://johnsmallman.wordpress.com/2013/0...-momentum/

    This channeling is what I'm talking about, channelings that focus more on the personal growth aspect ring very true to me, as if this is what we are overlooking. The now.

    the other channelings that focus on the past or the future, could that be light? that is light, light can be without love and love without light, and certainly our new age should not be light! it should be love AND light. i always of course equate light to knowledge


    Quote:"Humanity is on a roll! Yes, you really are. The pace of change in attitudes and behaviors all across the world is gathering momentum as the newly engaged-with energies that were released to you in December 2012 strengthen your collective intent to awaken and eternally enjoy Reality — your normal fully conscious and fully enlightened state.

    In that wondrous state, Love is the engine, the creative energy, the divine power grid that maintains, supports, and makes possible all that exists. It is totally clean, infinitely abundant, fulfilling, and available, and from It all of creation receives everything it could ever need or conceive of to maintain infinite quantities of live, loving, intelligent consciousness, creating further abundance in perfect beauty and harmony, eternally." Excerpt from channeling http://johnsmallman.wordpress.com/2013/0...-momentum/

    what is fully enlightened, it's not just seeing the frequency war, between the orions and the confederation, fear vs love, it's that war in you! so make love not war. I see a world where everyone starts to realize what it is exactly what emotions they stir not just in themselves but in others with every action they take. I believe everyone is beginning to rethink their values, this is no longer something to look forward to this is something we must live, many people must realize this otherwise I would not be here speaking so adamantly.

    Of course it is not about pretending to be loving either! This is about having done all of those negative things and seeing the consequences of your actions, this is about having done negative things for so long that you are sick and tired of the drama and sick and tired of the same mental loops and hurdles you put yourself through. Baggage after baggage, it is time to heal those wounds and not push those things away! It is to unify, integrate, learn, and then release when it no longer serves you, or you no longer learn anything from the situation. You make that choice to change, to become loving in that aspect, instead of shying away.

    In that very regard, the chakras activate by the very idea, the thought, because what do you need to think that way? you need to feel safe and secure with yourself - red ray open

    you need to feel good about yourself enough to recognize all of your actions and thoughts and emotions that you choose to go through each day have an impact, that you are a co-creator, a spark of prime creator. this cause and effect this is divinity, creating to enact change - orange ray open

    you need to go through the bad and the good, recognize the difficulty in your life, can sometimes be merely just the way you look at it. omg i'm not going to get this job, trust put that intention out that the best is in store for you afterall it is, you planned it preincarnation all of it including the drama!!! KNOW THIS this is a step beyond power and control over others, this is power and control over the self to create the mindset that you want for yourself to learn - then yellow ray open

    Now we get to green ray, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, HOW HARD IS THAT? i love you no matter what. i love me no matter what... don't just say it you gotta feel it, it's not so much the saying it's the feeling behind it... then viola green ray open

    NOW COMMUNICATE THIS, what is the best way we can take all of these lessons and communicate them sucessfully, by being unbridled and with unrestraint, say what you mean and mean what you say, dont' ever skirt around issues, move to the heart of the issue in speech and in your actions. be true to yourself but be able to take constructive criticism of your actions from others. if you are defensive like me, then it is a part of yourself you're still in the middle of learning how to love. like me. a part of YOUR infinity, that you must absorb, a part of yourself that has split that must become ONE. - BLUE RAY THROAT CHAKRA WISDOM, OPEN

    then we get to the third eye... intuition, this takes practice! the first gut feeling you get? it is usually your inner guides and angels aspects of your 6th density self. aspects of you! trust your intuition, trust your gut reaction which a lot of times can either be the first impression or just that spark of inspiration! you do not have the capacity in all your creatorness to create divinity in 3rd density. Intuition comes from your higher self, your future self.

    THEN THE CROWN LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL, SHINING AND OPEN IT IS NOW AS A RESULT OF TAKING THESE MATTERS TO HEART.. wheeeeeee and life becomes blissful.. because you see it that way. the change comes from within, not from out there.
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    03-21-2013, 09:27 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 09:28 PM by Parsons.)
    Coincidentally (and ironically) today is the date set to sign the World Peace Treaty by the Keshe Foundation.
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    03-21-2013, 09:40 PM
    Today is my baby brother's birthday! He's 10.
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