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    Thread: Harvest - Truth - Answers


    Billy (Offline)

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    #31
    12-06-2014, 06:53 AM
    Haha maybe you are right anagogy, that those who graduate from a dense illusion have 'greater qualifications'. Heheh I hope so.

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    12-06-2014, 06:58 AM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2014, 07:02 AM by Blimp.)
    (12-06-2014, 06:53 AM)Folk-love Wrote: Haha maybe you are right anagogy, that those who graduate from a dense illusion have 'greater qualifications'. Heheh I hope so.

    Well this is not some sort of exam. You don't expand consciousness by reading a book. You can't "teach" people how to love. You can't "teach" people compassion without showing them why they should be compassionate in the first place!

    Do you see? That is what gives you the "aha" moments. This is NOT to say that there is not a faster method of learning, but from what I know the Ra group was not dealing with a planetary entity that actively tried to oppose free will and keep the paradise. Hence, a greater catalyst was needed. This has been quite literally a prison planet with prisoners who do not realize they are in it. That's why our situation is so unique.

    http://www.serendipity.li/eden/y.html

    You might like that article. I do find it strange that I don't see Ra making any mention of our original "God" which was Sophia. Yahweh came along later and corrupted it. The sophianic vision by the gnostics has also been the most repressed and persecuted piece of information in the history of mankind. Makes you wonder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhvJod307zM

    That's the last one I promise. I just find all this amazing to share and talk about.
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    #33
    12-06-2014, 07:33 AM
    But doesn't that then go against that first Bashar video you linked? If you don't want to live in a reality where the planet is a prison then shift your beliefs and thoughts and create a reality where such a prison doesn't exist. I'm not saying I believe that but it seems like a contradiction. I don't get Bashar, I doubt a lot of what he teaches. Maybe that's my fault though. Maybe I want to live in the reality I have supposedly created. Maybe I'm still attached to it. I doubt it but I remain open to that possibility.

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    #34
    12-06-2014, 08:04 AM
    Your personality does not want to be in such a reality, but your soul does. It is concerned with teaching, and I have learned a lot. So I'm happy.
    And really, I am no guru, I don't know what is accurate. I really don't know if Ra is accurate as well. All I can tell you is that my intuition rings true to what is being said and that it seems correspondent to the way synchronicity and manifestation work.

    Think about Tarrot for instance. If not for the infinite parallel universe theory that would not be possible. But I have done it countless of times and it works.

    The only thing I can come up with is that my intention to know and my belief that the cards actually have an ability to show me something relevant, allows it to be true in the next reality I will experience. It also explains it in the sense that the higher self might pick that reality where the cards ARE aligned in accordance to the answers you seek.

    And yes! Contradictions are the name of the game. Truth in a subjective reality will always be thus subjective. Truths within truths, wheels within wheels. It is why Ra makes mention to avoid imparting on the free will to know. Just as with what Lucifer has done is terrible, horrible and should have never happened. It is a truth. Yet from THEIR perspective, which is spiritually very advanced, they made a sacrifice, and if you looked from their eyes, that is also truth. So finding out "The truth" will give you nothing but a headache in the end, if you think of it as some end goal to attain. Whatever feels true for YOU man, don't let me convince you of anything. I'm merely openly playing with ideas, I have no pride here, I don't have to be "right" about all of this anyway. Smile

    Also Burt Goldman thought about this before and designed the quantum jumping system. Think of it as you will, but the man became a best-selling writer, invented a new method of photography, has his artwork on display in high standing gallery's and did all of that in 2 years, at age 83-85, by simply switching realities or entering the universe in which he had made other choices.

    Have you never learned anything about magick? Or creative visualization? Directing forces? Without those basics, you will not really be able to consciously use your mind, and the elements to affect anything. Using merely the personality that is. If you learn the basics you'll stop worrying about this so much because you will notice it is very much like clay, you can mold it to whatever you like. You might notice how they have hinted at what I state with Harry "Potter".
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    #35
    12-06-2014, 08:31 AM
    All of this vagueness and all of these abstract/you create your own reality ideas and teachings are about to melt my brain. BigSmile

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    12-15-2014, 06:21 PM
    Good, let it melt.

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    #37
    12-26-2014, 08:55 PM
    That is interesting you talk about 2020. I talked on my blog (after a dream I deleted which mentioned David Wilcock) about the Jupiter- Saturn cycle which ends in 2020, moving to a new element. And I've heard many of the synodic cycles are focused around 2020.

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    #38
    12-27-2014, 12:16 PM
    Maybe we will see "with 20/20 vision" in the year 2020.
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    #39
    12-29-2014, 01:19 AM
    (11-17-2014, 03:45 AM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote: I am a mystic. A bodhisattva. A white magician. I provide you with this information as a humble messenger.

    I consider myself proficient in the realms of Mysticism, Esotericism, Occultism, and a plethora of ancient philosophies. I resonate deeply with the Law of One and with our Creator. The Law of One is the Perennial Philosophy, however I do not abandon the ancient wisdom and the inner meaning of mainstream and long forgotten mystery religions. There is truth in them, one must simply find it. Outside of the Law of One, I find the philosophy of Plotinus and his transcendent "One" to be most in alignment with the true nature of being to those open to it.

    I pose this revelation to you...

    A white magician, you say?

    It appears that those attending this forum forget there is much more material than they reference in either the Ra Materials or the latest forum posts. The sessions with Q'uo, for example, number in the thousands. How many posts on this particular subject have there been on Bring4th? They began in 2008 if I remember correctly.

    I would note you say "He" when referring to Ra. Ra is not limited by gender, but is a social memory complex, a population which has evolved so the their thoughts are One. An answer from Ra is an answer from 42 million evolved spirits and the collective experience from their several billion years of evolution. Although much more advanced, however, they were ill equipped to completely grasp the third density distortions on Earth, as their own third density experience was much more harmonious. This was to not to detriment, but due to the significant distortions created in Egypt, they have remain with Earth's inhabitants, and even take human form, in attempt to remove the ripple of distortions which they created .

    I will now attempt to explain the harvest according to Ra and Q'uo (Ra, Latwii, Hatonn [and Oxal]), fairly clearly and concisely.

    In the early 1980's, Ra spoke of the Harvest. It would begin in thirty years. Indeed it has begun, but one wouldn't notice it unless they knew what to look for. No rapture, no photon belt, no ascension, no revelations, bla bla bla, it's really quite boring from the perspective of homosapiens, and yet to the adept, the white magician, this time is exhilarating. The seven hundred years Ra spoke of was for fourth density entities to begin to form a social memory complex of unified thought, though it will take much longer for the process to be complete, a some millions of years.

    The solar system, travelling within this galaxy, passed fully into fourth density light in Dec 2012, and Mother Earth is fully in fourth density activation. Just as fourth density light begin to mingle with third density light more than 100 or so years ago, third density light now wanes over the next one hundred or so years. As third density light wanes, the populace of the planet will also wane, being replaced in smaller numbers by those of duel activated third/fourth density entities. These are known as indigo's, often diagnosed as ADD or ADHD. During this period of "time", those of third density will increasingly lose the desire to procreate, and eventually the last of third density entities will walk the steps of light, leaving only a small populace of fourth density entities walking upon Mother Earth.

    When one "dies", they walk the steps of light, as it were. What this entails is the spirit moving towards the light, upon which at some point, the light bevcomes too bright, and the spirit turns away. This is defined by the brilliance of their own light, found within the violet ray emanation. For the period of this harvest, the Guardians from the octave above our own have returned to offer exacting distortions of divine light, so as to provide assistance in ascertaining which spirits will and will not graduate into fourth density. Ra is also assisting, steadying those walking the steps, so that if one falls away from the light too early, Ra will catch and right them, assisting the spirit to move to the farthest point they can.

    The goal is to have as many graduate as possible, though unfortunately there are few who will graduate.

    Of the seven billion spirits inhabiting physical vehicles upon the upon this planet, there three possible outcomes:
    - A very small number of positively oriented spirits will graduate to fourth density positive and remain with Mother Earth, a fourth density positive planet, for a fourth density cycle.
    - An even smaller number of negatively oriented spirits will graduate into fourth density negative and begin experiences on a fourth density negative planet, for a fourth density negative cycle.
    - The remainder of unpolarized spirits will go on to populate another third density planet, for another third density cycle.

    I enjoyed one of Adyashanti's talks, in which he spoke of "All paths lead to the same place. Bullshit. All paths may lead to the top of the mountain, but most people haven't even seen the mountain yet." It's true, most are distracted, there is little focus, as Ra said, "Caught in the sinkhole of indifference". Forget knowledge, forget learning, forget understanding, it's all bullshit. If there is one thing which will help not only you, but others, it's meditation. Meditation should come first, everything else second.

    The light house need not go in search of ships to save, it needs only shine its light.
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    12-29-2014, 02:39 PM
    Just to include in your possible outcomes would be those wanderers who will walk the steps of light and possibly return to their home densities

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    12-29-2014, 11:53 PM
    (12-29-2014, 02:39 PM)Sabou Wrote: Just to include in your possible outcomes would be those wanderers who will walk the steps of light and possibly return to their home densities

    Indeed, upon completion of the contract, the wanderer may return to home density, however, s/he must maintain enough polarity to be harvested, otherwise, will move with other spirits to another third density planet for another third density cycle. Both polarity and karma come into play.
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    12-30-2014, 10:53 AM (This post was last modified: 12-30-2014, 10:58 AM by Sabou.)
    I think it would be interesting to know, I don't remember reading it, roughly what percentage of wanderers get swept up in the maelstrom of this density through karma or depolarization and if wanderers choose to enter lives that have less risk of karma entanglement etc.

    I can imagine some wanderers might enter into tough lives, though I believe, just as those who have important missions have many unseen helpers, these wanderers may have more helpers as well to give them little nudges so they do not depolarize too much or enter karma.

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    12-31-2014, 12:31 AM
    Ra mentions no percentages to the question you pose, most likely due to the question not having been asked, however, did speak of

    Quote:69.10 Questioner: Now, has a Wanderer ever been so infringed upon by, shall I say, a negative adept or whoever and then placed in negative time/space?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

    69.11 Questioner: Can you tell me of the situation that the Wanderer finds itself in and why the path back cannot be the simple moving back into the same value of positive time/space?

    Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves.

    When this has been accomplished the entity may then choose to release the potential difference and change polarities.

    However, the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy. Also the entity, in learning these lessons, may lose much positive orientation during the process and the choice of reversing polarities may be delayed until the mid-sixth density. All of this is, in your way of measurement, time-consuming although the end result is well.

    69.12 Questioner: Is it possible to tell me roughly how many Wanderers that have come to this planet within this master cycle have experienced this displacement into a negative time/space? Just wondering if there have been many.

    Ra: I am Ra. We can note the number of such occurrences. There has been only one. We cannot, due to the Law of Confusion, discuss the entity.
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