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    Thread: The Language Barrier in the Ra Material


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    #31
    02-06-2015, 07:21 PM
    I wish society would grasp the needle and point in the same direction. Towards love, towards 4D.
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    #32
    02-06-2015, 10:46 PM
    (02-06-2015, 05:24 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: This post is sort of tangential and personal, but I think it ultimately comes down to that language barrier. Ra spoke in such a way that a vast majority of the population here on Earth will see absolutely nothing worthy in their words. Why do I see it? What is it I am seeing? How can something be so absolutely significant to me, and speak on such an elevated level, yet look like just word salad to so many others (many who possess greater intelligence than I do)?

    I don't really like this answer, because it can be interpreted as elitist and also as a kind of confirmation bias, but nonetheless I think Ra's statement that "it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense" addresses your question.
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    02-07-2015, 12:26 AM (This post was last modified: 02-07-2015, 12:29 AM by Parsons.)
    I feel as though the language in the LOO is just so insanely distilled that some people take a big swig of it and spit it out because they are overwhelmed by the information. No matter how intellectual someone supposedly is, the mind will often fabricate a rational facade to an emotional response once it labels something as "bad". That is especially the case if someone is a hardcore atheist who is much more likely to write the material off as 'religious mumbo jumbo'.  Some sessions or even individual responses from Ra contain such an unbelievably concentrated amount of information in every sentence, they rival entire books of philosophical information. In fact, I have a hard time following some books if the information is so 'watered down' in comparison to the Ra Material. Every single time I come back to the material and re-read it, I find a session and/or answer that contains some unbelievably impactful philosophical information I overlooked the previous readthroughs.
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    #34
    02-07-2015, 02:21 AM
    (02-06-2015, 10:46 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:
    (02-06-2015, 05:24 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: This post is sort of tangential and personal, but I think it ultimately comes down to that language barrier. Ra spoke in such a way that a vast majority of the population here on Earth will see absolutely nothing worthy in their words. Why do I see it? What is it I am seeing? How can something be so absolutely significant to me, and speak on such an elevated level, yet look like just word salad to so many others (many who possess greater intelligence than I do)?

    I don't really like this answer, because it can be interpreted as elitist and also as a kind of confirmation bias, but nonetheless I think Ra's statement that "it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense" addresses your question.

    I think it's probably one of the more likely explanation. I know you're not alone in thinking that passage means that, essentially, it is only these groups of wanderers who will make sense of the Ra material. I do think it's a likely explanation, but I do see some alternate interpretations of that statement. The fact that I don't feel like a wanderer (I wouldn't be surprised if I were, but all of my investigation and intuition on the issue suggests otherwise) probably keeps me from buying completely into that explanation. But it would make sense.


    (02-07-2015, 12:26 AM)Parsons Wrote: Some sessions or even individual responses from Ra contain such an unbelievably concentrated amount of information in every sentence, they rival entire books of philosophical information. In fact, I have a hard time following some books if the information is so 'watered down' in comparison to the Ra Material. Every single time I come back to the material and re-read it, I find a session and/or answer that contains some unbelievably impactful philosophical information I overlooked the previous readthroughs.

    This is why I kind of laugh at that publisher rejection letter line that says the material is "so void of information - of content." Like, really?! The information in these words is so dense that I can read it 10 times and still find new nuances that reveal more information in the words. It's true that the grammar can be cumbersome, such as Ra calling "words" "sound vibratory complexes" - that's 3 words where Ra could have just used one word. But I think in instances like that, Ra had a reason for using the terms they did, to denote or hint at something greater than the word we would commonly use for certain concepts.

    But "void of information"?! It's such a stark contrast between those who "get it" and those who don't.
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    #35
    02-07-2015, 05:45 AM
    (02-06-2015, 10:46 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:
    (02-06-2015, 05:24 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: This post is sort of tangential and personal, but I think it ultimately comes down to that language barrier. Ra spoke in such a way that a vast majority of the population here on Earth will see absolutely nothing worthy in their words. Why do I see it? What is it I am seeing? How can something be so absolutely significant to me, and speak on such an elevated level, yet look like just word salad to so many others (many who possess greater intelligence than I do)?

    I don't really like this answer, because it can be interpreted as elitist and also as a kind of confirmation bias, but nonetheless I think Ra's statement that "it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense" addresses your question.

    i don't see anything elitist about it.

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    #36
    02-07-2015, 10:56 AM
    Here's a quote worth adding to the thread.. "99.5 As in all distortions, the source is the limit of the viewpoint."

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    02-07-2015, 11:39 AM
    (02-07-2015, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I do see some alternate interpretations of that statement.

    At the risk of thread derailment, would you be willing to elaborate?

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    #38
    02-09-2015, 07:09 PM
    I am darn near certain that the LOO language's first purpose is to turn away those people that should not read it, not so much because it might endanger them as because they might want to interpret to their advantage. You see TV preachers make some ridiculous interpretations of the Bible to sway followers toward their way or even just to make themselves appear to be experts in "God's Word."

    Another purpose, IMO, is to trigger something in its intended readers to take 2nd and 3rd looks before rejecting it. I have no idea what that might be, but I think it's in there.

    Not that Ra necessarily composed the material consciously for this, but it just needs to be there and so it is. Wink

    Be glad that you find good stuff in this material and don't be disappointed that many others reject it. They are supposed to.
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    #39
    02-10-2015, 09:01 AM
    i feel that too. first time reading it it loudly resonated. but at the time of finding it i had been "seeking" for years & building my understanding of these concepts. at an earlier time i wouldn't have had the same spiritual, experiential & mental foundation. plus u need the desire, which imo is most crucial to understand any thing.
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    #40
    02-10-2015, 01:15 PM
    I only got into Ra material because I thought it was an actual physical matter that I was curious about. A material being a thing.

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    #41
    02-10-2015, 01:46 PM
    can u clarify?

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    02-10-2015, 02:36 PM
    (02-10-2015, 01:46 PM)Bluebell Wrote: can u clarify?

    I thought Ra material was something solid. Like a piece of metal.
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    #43
    02-10-2015, 02:42 PM
    lol Smile Smile Smile

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    02-10-2015, 05:25 PM
    (02-10-2015, 02:42 PM)Bluebell Wrote: lol Smile Smile Smile

    What kept me into the LOO was looking forward to something better.

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    02-10-2015, 10:27 PM
    (02-10-2015, 02:36 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I thought Ra material was something solid. Like a piece of metal.

    Haha..oh Gemini  BigSmile

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    #46
    02-11-2015, 03:17 AM
    (02-10-2015, 10:27 PM)Icaro Wrote:
    (02-10-2015, 02:36 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I thought Ra material was something solid. Like a piece of metal.

    Haha..oh Gemini  BigSmile

    It's the new element Raonite!
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    02-11-2015, 09:51 AM
    Sounds powerful!

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    02-17-2015, 06:29 PM
    (02-07-2015, 11:39 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:
    (02-07-2015, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I do see some alternate interpretations of that statement.

    At the risk of thread derailment, would you be willing to elaborate?

    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10410   Wink
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