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AnthroHeart · 02-27-2015, 10:50 AM

(02-27-2015, 05:03 AM)Confused Wrote: Black hole 12bn times more massive than sun

A very large Logos indeed.

Confused · 02-27-2015, 11:10 AM

(02-27-2015, 08:06 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: [...] - to seek the Creator.

There lies another paradox, from my understanding of the LOO. We seek the Creator and the Creator seeks through us.
Paradoxes within paradoxes within paradoxes.... :p
Incidentally, I did not realize that the video you posted ran for more than an hour, until I clicked it BigSmile

Confused · 02-27-2015, 11:13 AM

(02-27-2015, 10:50 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: A very large Logos indeed.

I sometimes wonder how the sizes of the logos are determined. To be more specific, the processes that underpin the various magnitudes.

However, such knowledge is not very central to spiritual seeking, I guess. Moreover, they have little practical value, while within human incarnation, as far I can see.

Plenum · 02-27-2015, 11:27 AM

(02-27-2015, 11:10 AM)Confused Wrote: Incidentally, I did not realize that the video you posted ran for more than an hour, until I clicked it

just some 80's music for you BigSmile

November Rain is the best track on that album. It had a certain appeal to a certain teenager so many years ago.

it's all how you 'use your illusion' Mr Confused :d

Confused · 03-01-2015, 03:30 AM

Rashomon effect

Confused · 03-01-2015, 08:23 AM

Frightening demons?

AnthroHeart · 03-01-2015, 12:54 PM

(03-01-2015, 08:23 AM)Confused Wrote: Frightening demons?

From what I heard Jung handled his schizophrenia well. When I have episodes, they freak me out. It's hard not to be attached to them.

Confused · 03-02-2015, 01:00 PM

(03-01-2015, 12:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: From what I heard Jung handled his schizophrenia well. When I have episodes, they freak me out. It's hard not to be attached to them.

Jung was indeed extremely fascinating.

Confused · 03-02-2015, 01:01 PM

(02-27-2015, 11:27 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: it's all how you 'use your illusion' Mr Confused :d

Plenum, from what I know of you, you have the capacity to hide great insights in pithy statements.

Anything deep in that statement of yours, mate?

Plenum · 03-02-2015, 08:59 PM

(03-02-2015, 01:01 PM)Confused Wrote:
(02-27-2015, 11:27 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: it's all how you 'use your illusion' Mr Confused :d

Plenum, from what I know of you, you have the capacity to hide great insights in pithy statements.

Anything deep in that statement of yours, mate?

not particularly BigSmile

I guess I was just pointing out the fact that life as an incarnated personality is truly, and I mean, truly, an individual, personalised experience which we shape, and then input feedback, into future experiences. I just think of my 2 siblings, and we are all within three years of each other, and we were subjected to the same family environment (well, with the obvious difference that they didn't have to deal with a bullying, troublesome eldest brother in me BigSmile

), and yet we all took away such different memories and interpretations from it. There were some commonalities, of course - as adults, we can comment on our parents' foibles, and we are in no disagreement about their habits and core nature. And yet, given a hotbed of similiar inputs, these three muffins all turned out a different flavor.

It's the whole nature vs nurture debate, but in a less starkly divisive fashion.

We got dem same similiar nurturing, but our nature's turned that experience to it's own end.

So how do we use our illusion, and what do we do with it? Our natures already have many biases formed from the condensed experience of many hundreds, if not thousands of incarnation. We are already turned a certain way. But anything that was done (in a negative sense) can be undone, and anything presently negative, can be transformed using our consciousness. That's our interpretation. And the use of the Death, Lovers, and Judgement archetypes, in a less than knowing fashion (we can still utilise transformations without knowing the exact how and why; although, at the higher reaches, it becomes almost science-like in it's reliability and repeatability - a hallmark of having truly understood the process, like any skilled practitioner or expert).

So we can all 'use your illusion' in the deepest and most profound ways.

Thus the sub-Logos can offer only a basic skeleton, shall we say, of catalyst. The muscles and flesh having to do with the, shall we say, survival of wisdom, love, compassion, and service are brought about by the action of the mind/body/spirit complex on basic catalyst so as to create a more complex catalyst which may in turn be used to form distortions within these higher energy centers.

and

Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred.

I am not trying to make light (pardon the pun) of lives that have difficulty, pain, and physical suffering in them. These are real (and core) parameters of someone's life. And yet, the individual journey is full of minute and ongoing choices of interpretation; some of the most intractable things about my own personality and presentation, I never thought amenable to change. And yet, we can all transcend the parameters of our interpretations.

I beg forgiveness, in advance, for the mini essay. It is by no means directed at you or anything in particular. More personal observations and reflections on my own sinuous path through life Tongue

Confused · 03-03-2015, 11:10 AM

(03-02-2015, 08:59 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: I beg forgiveness, in advance, for the mini essay. It is by no means directed at you or anything in particular. More personal observations and reflections on my own sinuous path through life

Plenum, that is a truly beautiful write-up. Thank you for writing it.

Forgiveness? Lol! It was a real blessing to have been able to read that.