The Vibratory Formulae

[Minyatur]

Those are problems? For some reason I never see it that way. For me, it's like "OH there are things to do! Yay!"

I feel like in a maze of which I'd just want to step out of. The right word is.. cumbersome.

[Aion]

I must be a sucker for puzzles.

[Minyatur]

I must be a sucker for puzzles.

Part of my puzzle is probably being annoyed with it at this point.

[Minyatur]

What ritual would be good to work on another person from a distance?

[Aion]

I use a Reiki technique for my long distance work so I can't really share that unless I initiate you but I will browse and see what I can find.

[Minyatur]

I use a Reiki technique for my long distance work so I can't really share that unless I initiate you but I will browse and see what I can find.

To be initiated does it need to be in person? I was thinking of being initiated and was looking at that earlier, since it seemed like a lengthy 4 steps process I was thinking of going for a balancing first.

I think I got over wanting to do things by myself, it seems to simply be bearing less fruits than if I were to accept my own limitations and move on from that state of mind. I do realise how close minded I was, guess that's a good step and I also have the desire to be able to do more for others.

[Minyatur]

I don't know if this is relevant to others but for me performing the LBRP with my eyes closed is much more effective.

[Aion]

I do it with my eyes closed sometimes, kind of a mix usually.

Also, reading more about the LBRP it looks like what makes it a Banishing ritual is the particular use of the pentagram and the way it is drawn. However, if one does the Pentagram in a different fashion, in the reverse direction (rather than starting at the left hip and going to the crown, starting at the crown and going down to the left) it is an Invoking Pentagram and that version of the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram is more for prayer and calling to surround yourself with the positive forces.

It's recommended that you do an Lesser Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram in the morning to call in all of the divine forces, and then doing the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram at night before you sleep to clear out any excess or lingering entities.

I really view this ritual as being like hygiene. Keeping your aura clean!

[Minyatur]

I do it with my eyes closed sometimes, kind of a mix usually.

Also, reading more about the LBRP it looks like what makes it a Banishing ritual is the particular use of the pentagram and the way it is drawn. However, if one does the Pentagram in a different fashion, in the reverse direction (rather than starting at the left hip and going to the crown, starting at the crown and going down to the left) it is an Invoking Pentagram and that version of the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram is more for prayer and calling to surround yourself with the positive forces.

It's recommended that you do an Lesser Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram in the morning to call in all of the divine forces, and then doing the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram at night before you sleep to clear out any excess or lingering entities.

I really view this ritual as being like hygiene. Keeping your aura clean!

I had read about invoking but had forgot about it.

In my case there are a lot of eternal forces being drawn to my house, I'd start with a banishing and then do an invoking ritual in the morning else I doubt it'd be as efficient. Would that be good or are they too opposite to each other?

[Aion]

They aren't opposed to eachother, I'd say they are complimentary. I see no issue with doing it that way.

[Minyatur]

Here are some things I'd like clarification after having read a bit more about the LBRP :

Is there a reason the LBRP works only with one element for the drawing of the Pentagram? Rather than doing each element when facing the direction of that element. East/Air, South/Fire, West/Water and North/Earth. Or is it useful to switch element from a ritual to another?

(if we forget the first question) I realized I've been using a dagger (air) but was doing a earth pentragram by starting with left hip. Should I instead be starting at the left shoulder toward the right shoulder to make a air pentragram while using a dagger?

[Minyatur]

I just realized I had wrote "Behind me Michael" and "At my right hand Gabriel" in my notes. When doing the ritual I had a tendency to mix them and say "Behind me Gabriel" instead, now I do realize that's actually what I was supposed to do.

[Aion]

Here are some things I'd like clarification after having read a bit more about the LBRP :

Is there a reason the LBRP works only with one element for the drawing of the Pentagram? Rather than doing each element when facing the direction of that element. East/Air, South/Fire, West/Water and North/Earth. Or is it useful to switch element from a ritual to another?

(if we forget the first question) I realized I've been using a dagger (air) but was doing a earth pentragram by starting with left hip. Should I instead be starting at the left shoulder toward the right shoulder to make a air pentragram while using a dagger?

The same pentagram is used because it's the same intention in all quarters. To use a different one would alter the intention of the working and thereby the formula. Hence there is a banishing version and an invoking version.

No, just because you are using a dagger doesn't mean you have to associate everything with air. The elements are all within each other. The purpose of the pentagram is to create by intention. The purpose of the dagger is to focus and extend the will. The dagger drawing the pentagram represents the will formulating an intention.

[Minyatur]

What kind of intent/emotion should be given into the ritual? I've been doing it in a pretty emotionless state (as I am a pretty emotionless person) and was wondering how I could add intensity into the ritual.

[Aion]

I don't really see the point to ritual without emotional levels, personally. For me the purpose is a system of protection and creating a filter so as to not take on offers of infringement.

The ritual has lots of potential functions. If you know none of them, why bother doing it? I suppose you can just find your own function in it.

I think this is a challenge for people who aren't predispositioned towards mysticism. It's not about 'what it does' in a mechanical sense. Rituals are psychodramas in which you articulate the identity and personality to create changes in awareness. Changes in awareness result in development. The experience of the ritual is the effect itself.

[Aion]

A large part of ritual for me is getting in to a sense of intimacy and personal connection with the forces I am working with. I am perhaps different from some magicians in that I am not trying to extract forces from personality but rather I view personality as a vehicle. So I see these rituals as like developing a certain type of relationship with the universe and beings within it.

[Minyatur]

I don't really see the point to ritual without emotional levels, personally. For me the purpose is a system of protection and creating a filter so as to not take on offers of infringement.

The ritual has lots of potential functions. If you know none of them, why bother doing it? I suppose you can just find your own function in it.

I think this is a challenge for people who aren't predispositioned towards mysticism. It's not about 'what it does' in a mechanical sense. Rituals are psychodramas in which you articulate the identity and personality to create changes in awareness. Changes in awareness result in development. The experience of the ritual is the effect itself.

I do the ritual to clear myself of unwanted influences that interact with me through my unconscious as to not be hindered unawarely. I do not quite see what emotion should be the driving force behind this protection, any emotion I could think of seems not to resonate with this ritual.

There's intent in that I am doing it, without will I would not. But how to add more intensity is hard to conceive for me.

[Minyatur]

A large part of ritual for me is getting in to a sense of intimacy and personal connection with the forces I am working with. I am perhaps different from some magicians in that I am not trying to extract forces from personality but rather I view personality as a vehicle. So I see these rituals as like developing a certain type of relationship with the universe and beings within it.

I've been trying to do that to a certain extent, the extent being my capacity to feel that I am interacting with something. Saying a name out loud does not necessarily carry it's presence to my awareness.

[Aion]

I guess for me I don't really identify emotion with the common ideas of types of emotions. To me, emotion stripped of any connotations is just passion so I guess when I say emotionality I mean I do it with passion.

[Minyatur]

I guess for me I don't really identify emotion with the common ideas of types of emotions. To me, emotion stripped of any connotations is just passion so I guess when I say emotionality I mean I do it with passion.

Guess I just need to amplify what's already there.

I think I just want things to go faster (like always). I've seen a window to my true self and I have a hard time seeing what's keeping me from being what I saw. I can't seem to generate the emotional drive which I've seen, though the window left a slight openning to be worked with, from which sparks a desire to become more.

[Minyatur]

I was wondering why it's so freaking hard to open my heart and thought it can only be as hard as to close it for someone who has it very open.

[Parsons]

I am doing this ritual for a very similar purpose as Minyatur... The basic core intention I have is to cleanse my 'spirit' for the purpose of healing; like cleansing a wound. I have little trouble feeling passionate about the ritual. I have had two occasions where I was REALLY 'feeling it' and the ritual took on transcendetal properties.

I've been doing it nearly every night for 2 or 3 weeks now and I feel it is most helpful. I have finally memorized the ritual words and am working on better associating each of them with corresponding concepts/entities.

[Minyatur]

I am doing this ritual for a very similar purpose as Minyatur... The basic core intention I have is to cleanse my 'spirit' for the purpose of healing; like cleansing a wound. I have little trouble feeling passionate about the ritual. I have had two occasions where I was REALLY 'feeling it' and the ritual took on transcendetal properties.

I've been doing it nearly every night for 2 or 3 weeks now and I feel it is most helpful. I have finally memorized the ritual words and am working on better associating each of them with corresponding concepts/entities.

What do you think made it take transcendal properties on the two occasions you spoke of?

I'm also working with associating each name with concepts/entities but I tend to always forget what they're linked to and treat them as presences without attributes.

I've been working on my pronounciation too with youtube videos. I wasn't far off but certain things could've been better.

[Aion]

I would suggest in those transcendental sessions you experienced genuine faith.

[Parsons]

I can only clearly remember one session that was transcendental.

I had played video games literally all day alone. I was feeling extremely fatigued and was having red-ray survival anxiety (I was playing Fallout). I was so absorbed in the game I didn't realize how bad it was. I felt I needed the healing/cleansing more than ever before. In the first few sessions, I had trouble at first with pronouncing some of the words. This session I felt much more confident and I really hit my stride about a 3rd of the way in. By the end and awhile afterwards, I can only describe a feeling of power (although the word isn't quite right). I felt like my whole body and mind was brimming with electric potential. That and I felt somehow 'pure'.

[Minyatur]

How do you experience genuine faith? I'd say I've done that once and it brought me on my spiritual path but why would everything that followed not be genuine faith?

[Aion]

Because the self is erratic, shifting and changing and we are learning to discipline that personality.

Maybe it is, who knows. I distinctly avoid any notion that I am 'already done'. I always find new things to work on in myself and it astounds me that others might feel they do not.

Faith is a deeply personal thing, I don't think there is any 'method' in achieving it except practice and experiment.

[Aion]

Although I would consider it an extreme or ascetic method one way you can try is to physically exhaust yourself before doing the ritual. Not so much that you are ready to fall asleep but enough that your body is ready to relax and rest. Try to be relaxed while you do the ritual, while still putting passion in to it. Seems contradictory I know but power flows somewhere between serenity and intensity.

[Aion]

I wouldn't say even that faith is something you develop or create, it's almost like its found, lost and found again.

[Minyatur]

My only moment of genuine faith was truly effortless, "Hey god... if you exist I'd want to know" That was sincere enough apparently to give off an initiatory experience.