art censorship????????

[Splash]

I don't think erotica/porn/sexual descriptions/images/discussions etc are appropriate for Bring 4th...

In metaphysics, sexuality is recognised as very powerful, and spiritual sexuality has many schools of thought, a multitude of disciplines of conduct, learning, initiation and journey work...

It's appropriate for sexual discussion on B4th to be within the scope of the Ra material, L/L information, or moderator training in esoteric sexuality

ie: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=s...y+transfer

and it would have the clearest energy if a specialist in sexual energy transfer assisted those threads... otherwise with more casual conversational sharing about personal sexuality, personal experiences - wouldn't it make sense to take that to external spirituality/sex designated websites?

because if it's not sexual/spiritual energy-transfer discussions (of whatever kind)  - wouldn't it just be people creating an area to share their sexuality and sexual ideas? ... and erotica/porn/sexual descriptions/images/discussions etc aren't the originally agreed environment of Bring4th... (?)

only my perspective (of course)... and if decided to be changed.. then I would use the "NSFW" advisory...

... just thinking - as this has already been rejected by mods... this discussion is actually a moot point...

though no 'sexy furries' allowed - but breasts in videos is an inconsistency that's valid to point out :idea:

[Minyatur]

idk, there's a masturbation thread and although I didn't write anything in it, it has 74 replies and never got moderated.

[Splash]

0_0 WTF!? 0_0

"ermaggerrrddd"...

"WOAAAHHH..."

[Bluebell]

indeed!

[Splash]

this thread is an example of what I'm saying:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3825

it's an example of a discussion about sexuality that (though 'session' specific) is conducted in a way that's appropriate for Bring4th and which other threads could model themselves around

imo


I need to explore this website faaaar more thoroughly. I log on - go straight to "Todays Posts" and read - or read then get involved in non Ra interactions...

hmmmm...

[Bluebell]

appropriate is subjective.

[Splash]

appropriate is subjective.

sometimes...

but (for eg) I wouldn't burst into laughter and loudly state the dead person was a b**** - when I was at their funeral... that wouldn't be "appropriate"...

I wouldn't feed a child with peanut allergy peanuts... or a dog chocolate etc... I wouldn't make fun of someone's pain... etc etc


L/L forum rules state what's appropriate for B4

there'd have been a lot of talk, thought and consensus worked through to arrive at them...

[Raz]

Here in Sweden everybody´s naked during summer time, and we are all naked under our clothes all the time.


And as all things are one, everything is absolutely private in every moment, so why do I/we ever feel exposed? Part of the idea of separateness I guess...

I understand and respect that there are individuals having a hard time with nudity and sexuality being expressed, but I also think it´s healthy to question and be curious where that resistance and uncomfortableness comes from.

Also; Boobs are magical and there would be less violence in the world if there was just more boobs in the world.

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"If I had a room full of boobs, that would be my favorite room" (No animals where harmed, no boobs where exposed and this video does not represent my magical view on them)

*removed "because boobs video"

[Splash]

if the band were in tiny underwear/g strings this would not be as offensive because at least then there would be an even playing field


It shits me to tears that it's 2015 and so many men (and some women) still don't understand that the objectification and exploitation of women by men isn't okay

I'm amazed at your ignorance Raz...

no.. actually it's major passive/aggressive behaviour to post this when a woman (me) has explained all that I've written here and you post this...

it's TROLLING


BRING4TH FORUM GUIDELINES

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=63

"7) Sexuality and our sexual natures represent very important, foundational, and profound portions of our evolutionary experience, yet this topic is one which can easily, perhaps even inadvertently, be abused and used to create more rather than less distortion. If such topics of concern are relevant to your post, participants are asked to be as sensitive as possible to all forum members, exercise their highest discernment, and use respectful terminology. At all times please attempt to discuss, share, and examine this category of information - whether anecdotal or abstract - with the aim of understanding it in terms of spiritual evolution, polarity, self-knowing, and self-accepting. If you are uncertain as to whether or not your post crosses this ambiguous line, we ask that you err on the side of caution and please refrain from publishing your post.

8) Discussions that involve pornography or profanity are strongly discouraged. Such topics can be discussed tastefully, but doing so can be a very tricky and delicate matter. In the same spirit as the guideline above, we ask that participants be as sensitive as possible to every forum member, exercise their highest discernment, and use euphemisms where possible. When in doubt, leave it out!"

[Raz]

As a former male stripper I am offended by your assumptions about me. As someone aware of the law of confusion I totally understand and respect where you come from with your assumptions as if I where you I would assume the same things =) relax, focus & have fun <3

Also I identify my self with the women in the video exactly as much as with the men. I don't see men and women, I see individuals and they are obviously having fun...
out of respect for how you feel I removed the video tho, as I do care about your feelings friend Splash... I find how we separate us from each other with the detail difference between the male and female food body very sad and don't part take in it "be the change you want to see"

[Shemaya]

Raz, you are right about boobs being magical.

The first suckling of my 3 babes were the most magical moments of my life.  It was awesome, amazing, beautiful..... looking into a new beings eyes for the first time.  

I think if we keep in mind the primary purpose of boobs, that is nurturing, nourishment, love and connection, than the magic is always at the forefront of our consciousness.  

As far as sexuality, boobs represent the love and connection experience in sex, imo.

[Matt1]

NSFW forum/thread? seems like the obvious answer.

[Shemaya]

NSFW forum/thread? seems like the obvious answer.

Yes , I agree Matt.  Rather than censoring, a specific thread would keep it contained and safe.  Those who might be offended can ignore the thread or forum.

As spiritual seekers and trailblazers, we certainly can let go of the old ways of repression, suppression, taboo and non- acceptance.   Creating a safe place for expression is a good thing in a spiritual forum such as this.  It would help keep the LOO from turning into a religion, for one thing.  Religion has to be one of the most sexually repressive institutions on the planet at the moment.

[APeacefulWarrior]

It shits me to tears that it's 2015 and so many men (and some women) still don't understand that the objectification and exploitation of women by men isn't okay

I'm amazed at your ignorance Raz...

no.. actually it's major passive/aggressive behaviour to post this when a woman (me) has explained all that I've written here and you post this...

it's TROLLING

OK, you really seem to be going too far here, Splash. Raz just chimed in with an opinion, and you immediately started insulting him and outright calling him a TROLL. You're assuming motivations that he did not express, and there's no call for such dismissive name-calling. Your comment even borders on suggesting that because he's a man, he's not even allowed to dispute you (a woman) on these things.

But surely you don't believe that, right?

Plus, this discussion started off with matters of sexualized ART, and of anthropomorphic animals to be exact, which really doesn't have much to do with the sexual exploitation of live humans of either gender.

You seem to be acting like the mere presence of an NSFW forum would automatically turn into some slut-shaming festival or stag party or something. That's not what anyone in the discussion is calling for. Sexuality is part of the human spiritual world, and there's nothing that says it can't be discussed in a reasonable, mature, spiritual manner. A sub-forum that can be avoided by people who aren't comfortable with such things would be a good venue.

It's the 21st Century. We should be able to discuss these things like grownups, without either needless giggling OR finger-wagging. Right?

[Shemaya]

Yes, I agree, APW.

Call it like it is. Raz is not trolling and calling him one is truly a misunderstanding.

[Raz]

Not wrong, just a misunderstanding, it´s all good, no drama =)

[Shemaya]

Thanks Raz, I will edit my post

[Sabou]

Instead of saying Splash is attacking/insulting Raz, try and see the compassion in her plight. You can see she is sensitive to this and so to be in her shoes you would have to understand what it would feel like to be sensitive to this, and therefore the loving thing to do is fully accept this and comply, the problem is, there seems to be a bit of justification and making a point that she shouldn't have a problem with it. Raz, clearly understands this as he removed the video, but imo there is no need to go on the counter-counter against splash to say the video and sexuality in this manner is ok, that is a personal matter. I think everyone here is fine and dandy and saying what they need to say otherwise, that is just my opinion

Personally, I have no problem with sexuality and the video - it is what it is

[Sabou]

Then again, I am just joining the "one should do this and should not do this" thing. Which I usually try to avoid, everyone is speaking their mind and all points are valid.

[Namaste]

Sexual energy exchange should categorically not be confused with 'erotica/porn'. Without sex the human race ceases to be. It's as natural to us as breathing air.

It's also a highly spiritual form of growth when involving green, blue and indigo rays. Blocking *all* references to sex is the action of a limited mindset adhering to socially oppressed norms enforced originally by religion.

No one is going to post pornography (even if they did it would be deleted). If one of GeminiWolf's pics has suggestive figures (either male or female) - why does it matter? We're adults, not children. One must remember that appreciating the bodily form of the opposite (or same, for that matter) sex is appreciating the Creator. There is nothing wrong with appreciating physical form, each are beautiful and unique expressions of the Self.

If you have an issue with that, thank yourself for the immediate catalyst and need for balancing, and then get to balancing yourself :¬)

P.S. Those afraid of getting caught at work, that's an individual responsibility, not one for the forum to address.

Peace :¬)

[Parsons]

P.S. Those afraid of getting caught at work, that's an individual responsibility, not one for the forum to address.

I have no problem with reading or participating in this sort of discussion. Nor do I have a problem with anyone posting borderline-pornography furry artwork. My only concern is opening a thread without knowing there is some sort of NSFW content within. There are 5 people sitting around me who simply have to turn their head to see my screen, plus random people walking (including middle/upper management) by who can also easily see my screen.

This forum is one of the few things I can do to break up the monotony and tedium of my work day. I would very much like to continue reading it while at work. And I don't think it's very much to ask to either slap a (NSFW) tag on a thread title, or better yet create a NSFW forum section. Once again, I am not asking for the discussion to be removed, just moved.

PS: Specifically with the furry thread, I already knew from the beginning that furries love to post furry-cartoon-errotica from past dealings with furries. So that specific thread never was a problem with me, although I'm concerned that people who haven't been around furries before not knowing and opening that thread at work.

[ree]

I don't see why there needs to be a NSFW thread here. As Splash and others said it's kind of not B4th thing. Pretty explicit in guidelines what the boundaries and focus are. The way the forum is set up works fine. 

[Aion]

If you ask me, this discussion shows pretty clearly how complicated sexual nature is. That's one of the reason I don't think just avoiding it will help. I think there are some unresolved group complexes surrounding sexuality and so these discussions are occuring to help balance that.

I understand both sides pretty well. I was taught by my Mom that sexuality is sacred and something to only be shared in trust. However, once that trust is established then discussion is fair game because everyone is on the same page.

Also, while I acknowledge and respect that one might feel their sexuality is very private, I think that's pretty common, I think it's an unfair suggestion to make that that is the only valuable approach or form of sexuality.

[Aion]

If anything, I am almost beginning to see a 'left-wing vs right-wing' phenomenon across the forums. Time and again we find ourselves divided to sides.

[Minyatur]

And yet again I stand on the middle side.

[Namaste]

And yet again I stand on the middle side.

Oxymoron :¬)

[ree]

There's not been a censorship issue or issue w/ discussing sexuality. If it had been, all of GW's Anthro pics would go down and we wouldn't have had that masturbation thread lol.

[Sabou]

And yet again I stand on the middle side.

That is one of my favourite sides 

[Namaste]

Parsons - if you use Chrome, grab Stylebot:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detai...eoha?hl=en

You can edit the look of any page by over-riding the CSS.

If you start Stylebot, load it up to edit the page then click on an image in a post, you can change the CSS 'Visibility' to 'hide'. No pics will show at all in posts, but at least you're safe :¬)

[Parsons]

We use chrome at work, but unfortunately addons/extensions stop working after first use (I think my workplace blocks them). But I appreciate the suggestion.