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    Thread: Psychic attack


    Reaper Away

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    #31
    06-28-2016, 08:15 PM
    I do not wonder why my person is stereotyped in this way. I simply carry the hallmarks of past experience in my current personality. While I possess a rather sensitive empathetic mechanism, its usage it often painful and terrifying. My heart could be compared to an atrophied muscle that is not stimulated without significant discomfort. Emotion, when it comes, is often overwhelming, and while I've had my touching moments, the temptation to simply revert to type is always present. Believe it or not, I put quite a bit of effort into tempering my responses, and often edit them when I feel I am being too abrasive. This is a genuine attempt to portray benevolent intentions, and I am sorry if it does not meet your standards.

    I am not attempting to pick on or bother you. I am concerned for your well being, based on the statements you have made, and have attempted to offer insight from an angle you're not going to see often on this forum. If you do not find it useful, I will simply withdraw my efforts.
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    #32
    06-28-2016, 08:37 PM
    (06-28-2016, 06:52 PM)Papercut Wrote: Negative entities fear the forgetting, thus no point for an Orion to wander upon this plane and risk polarizing positive.
    My whole life experience was built/manipulated negatively, the whole idea was to make me conciously believe/accept I'm STS. Try to understand the cleverness of negative entities.

    On a side note. If you want other selves listening to your advice you must also listen to theirs, I mean no harm. But your responses lack love/light and acceptence. Conciously you are very intelligent, but don't you wonder why WanderingOZ assumed you were STS just by some comments?


    Quote:To learn is the same as to teach unless you are not teaching what you are learning; in which case you have done you/they little to no good.

    I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.
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    #33
    06-28-2016, 09:01 PM
    I feel like everybody who has participated on this particular thread has had previous STS experiences at least and it is probably why they are those who feel called to answer. But I do not believe there is a single one of them to be STS in intention right now.
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    #34
    06-28-2016, 09:11 PM
    (06-28-2016, 08:15 PM)Reaper Wrote: I do not wonder why my person is stereotyped in this way. I simply carry the hallmarks of past experience in my current personality. While I possess a rather sensitive empathetic mechanism, its usage it often painful and terrifying. My heart could be compared to an atrophied muscle that is not stimulated without significant discomfort. Emotion, when it comes, is often overwhelming, and while I've had my touching moments, the temptation to simply revert to type is always present. Believe it or not, I put quite a bit of effort into tempering my responses, and often edit them when I feel I am being too abrasive. This is a genuine attempt to portray benevolent intentions, and I am sorry if it does not meet your standards.

    I am not attempting to pick on or bother you. I am concerned for your well being, based on the statements you have made, and have attempted to offer insight from an angle you're not going to see often on this forum. If you do not find it useful, I will simply withdraw my efforts.

    I apologize for the misconception, from my prespective that short reply felt irreverent as each reads the words in his own voice and emotion.
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    #35
    06-28-2016, 09:21 PM
    (06-28-2016, 08:37 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 06:52 PM)Papercut Wrote: Negative entities fear the forgetting, thus no point for an Orion to wander upon this plane and risk polarizing positive.
    My whole life experience was built/manipulated negatively, the whole idea was to make me conciously believe/accept I'm STS. Try to understand the cleverness of negative entities.

    On a side note. If you want other selves listening to your advice you must also listen to theirs, I mean no harm. But your responses lack love/light and acceptence. Conciously you are very intelligent, but don't you wonder why WanderingOZ assumed you were STS just by some comments?


    Quote:To learn is the same as to teach unless you are not teaching what you are learning; in which case you have done you/they little to no good.

    I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.

    I meant to a certain aggressive approach lacking emotion. Not actually indicating one being STS, nevertheless you're right.
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    #36
    06-28-2016, 10:05 PM
    (06-28-2016, 09:21 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 08:37 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 06:52 PM)Papercut Wrote: Negative entities fear the forgetting, thus no point for an Orion to wander upon this plane and risk polarizing positive.
    My whole life experience was built/manipulated negatively, the whole idea was to make me conciously believe/accept I'm STS. Try to understand the cleverness of negative entities.

    On a side note. If you want other selves listening to your advice you must also listen to theirs, I mean no harm. But your responses lack love/light and acceptence. Conciously you are very intelligent, but don't you wonder why WanderingOZ assumed you were STS just by some comments?



    Quote:To learn is the same as to teach unless you are not teaching what you are learning; in which case you have done you/they little to no good.

    I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.

    I meant to a certain aggressive approach lacking emotion. Not actually indicating one being STS, nevertheless you're right.

    I understand what you mean, but I might ask, what is the difference between such 'aggression' and 'passion'? I would wager that most people get aggressive because of emotion, not the lack thereof.

    The idea of 'lacking emotion' is a personal one for me since it's again something I have been accused of. I've been accused of being incapable of personal love or sentimental emotions. All of which is untrue, but because I am not emotional in my expression it is often taken that I lack the emotions.

    The question for me is, why is this approach so bothersome? Why are people so affected by what they perceive as 'cold' responses? Is it because they expect a warmer emotion or because they are identifying with that state and are not comfortable with it themselves?

    We have so many expectations of eachother.
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    #37
    06-28-2016, 10:10 PM
    In my experience...they use what you can't forgive about others as permission to point out ways that you fall short in these areas.
    It's always enabled by your own lack of personal development.
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    #38
    06-28-2016, 10:25 PM
    (06-28-2016, 10:05 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 09:21 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 08:37 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 06:52 PM)Papercut Wrote: Negative entities fear the forgetting, thus no point for an Orion to wander upon this plane and risk polarizing positive.
    My whole life experience was built/manipulated negatively, the whole idea was to make me conciously believe/accept I'm STS. Try to understand the cleverness of negative entities.

    On a side note. If you want other selves listening to your advice you must also listen to theirs, I mean no harm. But your responses lack love/light and acceptence. Conciously you are very intelligent, but don't you wonder why WanderingOZ assumed you were STS just by some comments?



    Quote:To learn is the same as to teach unless you are not teaching what you are learning; in which case you have done you/they little to no good.

    I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.

    I meant to a certain aggressive approach lacking emotion. Not actually indicating one being STS, nevertheless you're right.

    I understand what you mean, but I might ask, what is the difference between such 'aggression' and 'passion'? I would wager that most people get aggressive because of emotion, not the lack thereof.

    The idea of 'lacking emotion' is a personal one for me since it's again something I have been accused of. I've been accused of being incapable of personal love or sentimental emotions. All of which is untrue, but because I am not emotional in my expression it is often taken that I lack the emotions.

    The question for me is, why is this approach so bothersome? Why are people so affected by what they perceive as 'cold' responses? Is it because they expect a warmer emotion or because they are identifying with that state and are not comfortable with it themselves?

    We have so many expectations of eachother.

    I guess each issue to it's own. Specifically speaking though, cold responses sometimes do matter if an individual speaks about his life experience.

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    #39
    06-28-2016, 11:38 PM
    (06-28-2016, 10:25 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 10:05 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 09:21 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 08:37 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 06:52 PM)Papercut Wrote: Negative entities fear the forgetting, thus no point for an Orion to wander upon this plane and risk polarizing positive.
    My whole life experience was built/manipulated negatively, the whole idea was to make me conciously believe/accept I'm STS. Try to understand the cleverness of negative entities.

    On a side note. If you want other selves listening to your advice you must also listen to theirs, I mean no harm. But your responses lack love/light and acceptence. Conciously you are very intelligent, but don't you wonder why WanderingOZ assumed you were STS just by some comments?

    I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.

    I meant to a certain aggressive approach lacking emotion. Not actually indicating one being STS, nevertheless you're right.

    I understand what you mean, but I might ask, what is the difference between such 'aggression' and 'passion'? I would wager that most people get aggressive because of emotion, not the lack thereof.

    The idea of 'lacking emotion' is a personal one for me since it's again something I have been accused of. I've been accused of being incapable of personal love or sentimental emotions. All of which is untrue, but because I am not emotional in my expression it is often taken that I lack the emotions.

    The question for me is, why is this approach so bothersome? Why are people so affected by what they perceive as 'cold' responses? Is it because they expect a warmer emotion or because they are identifying with that state and are not comfortable with it themselves?

    We have so many expectations of eachother.

    I guess each issue to it's own. Specifically speaking though, cold responses sometimes do matter if an individual speaks about his life experience.

    Well there is no doubt that these things matter, but I am always trying to understand why they matter I suppose. There is always some interplay between individuals and how they react to each other.

    The challenge here is that everyone has a different thermometer. What is 'cold' to one person may not be so to another so it's a pretty hard way to measure oneself in the world, methinks.
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    #40
    06-29-2016, 12:10 AM
    (06-28-2016, 11:38 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 10:25 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 10:05 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 09:21 PM)Papercut Wrote:
    (06-28-2016, 08:37 PM)Aion Wrote: I've been accused of being 'STS' on this forum numerous times in the past. If accusations were reliable assessments of individuals it would be a very troubling world, indeed.

    Perhaps one can look at what is being offered rather than what one expects to be offered? Holding everyone to some arbitrary standard of 'love/light' really only speaks of one's own limits of understanding.

    I meant to a certain aggressive approach lacking emotion. Not actually indicating one being STS, nevertheless you're right.

    I understand what you mean, but I might ask, what is the difference between such 'aggression' and 'passion'? I would wager that most people get aggressive because of emotion, not the lack thereof.

    The idea of 'lacking emotion' is a personal one for me since it's again something I have been accused of. I've been accused of being incapable of personal love or sentimental emotions. All of which is untrue, but because I am not emotional in my expression it is often taken that I lack the emotions.

    The question for me is, why is this approach so bothersome? Why are people so affected by what they perceive as 'cold' responses? Is it because they expect a warmer emotion or because they are identifying with that state and are not comfortable with it themselves?

    We have so many expectations of eachother.

    I guess each issue to it's own. Specifically speaking though, cold responses sometimes do matter if an individual speaks about his life experience.

    Well there is no doubt that these things matter, but I am always trying to understand why they matter I suppose. There is always some interplay between individuals and how they react to each other.

    The challenge here is that everyone has a different thermometer. What is 'cold' to one person may not be so to another so it's a pretty hard way to measure oneself in the world, methinks.

    I wish we could communicate through our heart and not by words that have so much distortion/separation.
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    #41
    06-29-2016, 01:29 AM
    I think the most important part of communication is to communicate what needs to be heard to the one who listen. Unfortunately it is not always words from the heart that needs to be heard. In many case it is but sometimes what needs to be heard must come from a different chakra. And each individuality will perceive the same opportunity differently depending on their experiences. Some will never understand communicating with certain rays. Some will never undertsand not using it from the heart. But it is the one who communicates who must choose wisely which one seems to be the most appropriate depending on what is perceived to be necessary to communicate. Often when the receiver is confused and suffering it must come from an unexpected one so that change may occur. If you sit in the heart chakra and you feel insecure and confused, some higher chakras communication may help balance those disharmonies. But it is always to be received from the heart of the receiver.

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    #42
    06-29-2016, 06:12 AM
    I find that people take two approaches to my style of communication, and it goes about 50/50. 


    Approach 1: I LOVE your straightforwardness and honesty! It is so refreshing!

    Approach 2: You're an ass.

    You win some, you lose some, I suppose. 

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    06-29-2016, 09:12 AM
    Interestingly enough I have often wondered how my words would be perceived if they were more clothed in love, because I know their source lies in love but that it is not made apparent because of my energitical state. I have experienced complete heart openings on many occasions and have seen that my trains of thoughts remain the same and that my perspectives remain the same although the passion behind those same thoughts is felt much more strongly by me and as such radiated through them.

    So to me I know that most things I write would be written in the same manner even if they were completely clothed in love and mostly wonder why it is that something can be accepted or rejected depending on this sole factor. Why the same words can be made useful only because greater love is perceived within them. I am not someone who would block on this and would not value the words of another any more because I feel greater love within them, sometimes I even feel it seeks to hide a lack of insight upon the matter. To me love does not make what is shared either useful nor unuseful unless love is all that is sought, and to me the act of desiring to share something already does enough on that aspect. But then again I am not one to seek love from others nor feel a need for it and have been perceived as cold for this reason, so maybe I lack understanding and insight of what another that is unlike me can seek and then unpurposefuly desire to be an answer to someone who requires something other than myself. Then again, within this desire to provide an answer, there can only be love to be found as I see things.

    I seek balance and not to be overly open enegitically, although that may come when I am satisfied with the balance I have found and will seek to radiate it.

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    #44
    06-29-2016, 11:02 AM
    To go back on the main topic.

    I think if you keep questioning yourself and to seek, the nature of your experience will become clearer and clearer to yourself. Ultimately you already know why, but you veil yourself to know that you already know and this is where your confusion lies I would think.

    Seek to know thyself Creator and you will know thyself.

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    06-29-2016, 01:10 PM (This post was last modified: 06-29-2016, 01:12 PM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    It seems like accusations\insinuations of being STS tend to get thrown around here more than a bit too often. :-/ It's far too easy for those sorts of labeling games to derail discussions, or even encourage needlessly exclusionary behavior. (neither of which are very positive...)
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    06-29-2016, 05:17 PM (This post was last modified: 06-29-2016, 05:18 PM by Kaaron.)
    Well when you're talking about psychic attack, I feel like certain liberties can be taken as far as free will goes, especially in relation to topic of thought.
    Or, another way of saying it...If you're thinking about "them", you're calling them unless it's intentional in an attempt to understand/love that aspect of yourself.

    So, naturally...the topic of conversation is open to influence and maybe name calling and judgement could ensue.

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    #47
    06-29-2016, 05:42 PM
    If only Carla and Don would've thought of that..

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    06-29-2016, 07:46 PM
    Well, lucky for us...they went through what they did so we can.

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    06-29-2016, 08:09 PM
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    06-29-2016, 08:26 PM
    Quote:75.24 Questioner: The answer to this question probably has to do with our distorted view of time, but I see Wanderers in this density who have come from fifth or sixth density. [It] seems to me [that they] should already be of a relatively high degree of adeptness [and] must follow a slightly or somewhat different path back to the adeptness that they previously had in a higher density and get as close to it as they can in third density. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. Your query is less than perfectly focused. We shall address the subject in general.

    There are many Wanderers whom you may call adepts who do no conscious work in the present incarnation. It is a matter of attention. One may be a fine catcher of your game sphere, but if the eye is not turned as this sphere is tossed then perchance it will pass the entity by. If it turned its eyes upon the sphere, catching would be easy. In the case of Wanderers which seek to recapitulate the degree of adeptness which each had acquired previous to this life experience, we may note that even after the forgetting process has been penetrated there is still the yellow-ray activated body which does not respond as does the adept which is of a green- or blue-ray activated body. Thusly, you may see the inevitability of frustrations and confusion due to the inherent difficulties of manipulating the finer forces of consciousness through the chemical apparatus of the yellow-ray activated body.

    Would Lal be possessing a yellow-ray activated body? Huh
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    #51
    06-29-2016, 08:39 PM
    Killed me, ahahaha.

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    07-12-2016, 06:11 PM
    (06-25-2016, 02:50 PM)Papercut Wrote: I had some thoughts and doubts about it, but just now I recieved a massage from the guides that I am being influenced by an orion entity.
    I used to think it were demons, focusing on banishing rituals. I am weaker by every day. They scan my mind.
    I am a wanderer of 6th density. I am lost and alone. Weak, so so weak.

    Let me remind you that you are not just existing right now in the 3rd/4th dimension. We are constantly existing in all places, at all times. The orion entities have no seperation from us. So an attempt to disarray the other self is also disarraying themselves. I encourage you to send these entities love and hope that they will reach a service to others light. It is the best way to disorganize the attack and also the best way to protect yourself from attack without any conscious energy work.

    Viewing others as creator is the quickest and most powerful way to polarize towards a service to others path in my personal opinion. I live my life every day by the I AM principle.

    View other selves as creator.
    View self as creator.
    View creation as creator.
    The moment contains love.

    Hope I helped, please remember that you are loved and cherished.
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