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    #31
    04-06-2019, 09:51 AM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2019, 09:52 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    (04-06-2019, 08:45 AM)Cyan Wrote: I just slept on it and the idea still feels good, I'm going to have to check my scheduling and make a few phone calls on monday to confirm but it seems likely that I'll accept, the staff here think its sounding like a good idea.

    Ok, just be sure you can afford your food while you're here.
    I won't be able to afford to cover that since I'm paying for the ticket.

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    #32
    04-06-2019, 11:05 AM
    If I get my social security it wont be an issue for the last 2 months but the first month I maybe super tight on my money and dont know how I'll do the first month, I'll see. I need to check on monday by calling the people. IF I get my social security money can I pay you back on the 2nd month if you cover my food for the first?

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    #33
    04-06-2019, 11:15 AM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2019, 11:17 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Yes, I can cover it for the first month and have you reimburse me, either when here or when you got back.

    I'm not usually good at shopping though, so I don't know how much to get for the 2 weeks I'll be gone.
    But you probably know how much to get to last you the 2 weeks.

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    #34
    04-06-2019, 03:54 PM
    I know how much to get, i've had to shop for myself when i lived alone for years.

    So this is sounding like a plan, I'll let you know how the phonecalls go on monday.

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    #35
    04-07-2019, 07:51 AM
    I just slept on it some more and it feels like a really good idea and a step up, living as the roommate of a LOO believer rather than in the homeless shelter feels like a really good step up.

    I'm going to call the nurse on monday and the social security as well, I hope this works out.

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    #36
    04-07-2019, 12:42 PM
    I can do the 90 days, but after that, even when you went back home, and came back later, I wouldn't be able to afford to house you after that if I could find someone who pays to stay.
    I've heard that visas here in the US are on a lottery system and take a long time.

    Would you be able to work on a visa here? I'm not sure how that all works out.

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    #37
    04-07-2019, 01:32 PM
    I appreciate the opportunity to stay there, lets worry about the 2nd trip once I get acclimated and see if I even like it in austin. I could start working on a VISA there but there is currently no rush, the process can be completed well when I return for 3 months to finland

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    #38
    04-07-2019, 01:48 PM
    I live in the outskirts of San Antonio actually. Austin is the capital city of Texas.

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    04-08-2019, 08:37 AM
    My mistake, could have sworn austin, maybe its beuase I want to visit that chiropractor guy in Austin. BigSmile

    Anyway, I just called the nurse and the social security office and both agree that my trip can be done, while they cant outright promise I'll get paid during my visit, it is the norm and no special actions have to be taken, so I'll get 490 a month give or take for 3 months while there. Now the last hurdle is to convince the border guards I'm not an illegal immigrant and I dont want to work while staying, I'll ofcourse do the house work as requested but I mean that the purpose of my trip is pleasure not work, i hope they dont take offence at my homelesness.
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    #40
    04-08-2019, 09:17 AM
    (04-08-2019, 08:37 AM)Cyan Wrote: Now the last hurdle is to convince the border guards I'm not an illegal immigrant and I dont want to work while staying, I'll ofcourse do the house work as requested but I mean that the purpose of my trip is pleasure not work, i hope they dont take offence at my homelesness.
    "I'm going to visit a friend." That's all you need to tell them. Seriously, don't build yourself into a box you don't need to climb out of, my friend. Do NOT say things like "well of course I'm going to do the housework" to the border guards, they intentionally try to entrap you. My friend learned this by saying "I mean I could use it for work" about a laptop intended for personal/school use. Unnecessary hassle if they misunderstand. They're extra touchy these days too.
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    #41
    04-09-2019, 07:08 AM
    I just confirmed with everyone and I should be good to go, thanks, I'll PM rest.

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    #42
    04-12-2019, 07:23 PM
    So, preliminary data is I'll be in san antonio tx at start of next month around 7th day and will be there for 3 months. I can travel across the US but have limited finances so if anyone wants to meet me I'd need a place to stay for the duration and i maybe able to travel only to the neighbouring states or within tx. If anyone wants to meet me I think I can manage that well.

    So thats about it, I'll be there for 3 months, its probably safer and more fun than living here but 3 months is a long time to live away from people so if anyone from here wants to meet me in austin or arrange for me to meet them somewhere else that would be nice, I'm trying to get acquinted with the americas so I'd be eager to travel.

    Thanks in advance, also, thank you gemini for helping me out like this. Muchappreciated.
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    #43
    04-21-2019, 02:11 AM
    Everything seems to bein order, we've filled out the required paper work and the next hurdle is getting mandatory vaccinations. Then I need to check if I can get the ticket from the airport with just the number I now have.

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    #44
    04-21-2019, 02:15 AM
    You probably won't use the itenerary number. There are individual codes in the confirmation email for each airline.

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    #45
    04-25-2019, 08:00 PM
    So are you still going to gems house?
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    #46
    04-26-2019, 12:51 AM
    (04-25-2019, 08:00 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote: So are you still going to gems house?

    Yup, tisall set
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    #47
    04-26-2019, 12:53 AM
    Cool. Hope you like your time in Texas then Smile
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    #48
    04-26-2019, 06:26 AM
    That's cool man. I'm excited for you. It's like an adventure! Good luck, and all the best to both of you!
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    #49
    04-29-2019, 10:24 PM
    amazing. awesome stuff.

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    #50
    04-30-2019, 02:38 PM
    I just barely read some of this thread, and having some similar experience as a homeless person (US citizen in an EU country) I just want to chime in, I can tell you that, without a visa, you will absolutely be deported, possibly blacklisted from entering the US ever again once they do make you leave, and any work at all without a visa is basically ... highly illegal. Have you done much research into this? This could eventually be a harder situation to get out of, than to get into. (Just ask me, it's exactly what happened to me).

    Shucks, I see you've already bought the ticket. I wish you guys luck. I haven't read the entire thread but from what I gather you don't have a visa. What is your plan when that time period expires? Continual travel between two countries on a vacation or tourists' visa reeks to those border guards. The border guards are totally trained for this stuff. I learned that the hard way as a naive individual traveling around the world like it was just okay and allowed to be anywhere. Even with my US citizenship, I have no rights in any other country but mine. I was never allowed to even try to make a living abroad. Detained and interrogated for 6 hours straight. It's really not wise to do this without that legal homework done, so to speak. All the information is available on countries' websites.
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    #51
    04-30-2019, 02:45 PM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2019, 02:48 PM by einmal.)
    (04-08-2019, 09:17 AM)Tae Wrote:
    (04-08-2019, 08:37 AM)Cyan Wrote: Now the last hurdle is to convince the border guards I'm not an illegal immigrant and I dont want to work while staying, I'll ofcourse do the house work as requested but I mean that the purpose of my trip is pleasure not work, i hope they dont take offence at my homelesness.
    "I'm going to visit a friend." That's all you need to tell them. Seriously, don't build yourself into a box you don't need to climb out of, my friend. Do NOT say things like "well of course I'm going to do the housework" to the border guards, they intentionally try to entrap you. My friend learned this by saying "I mean I could use it for work" about a laptop intended for personal/school use. Unnecessary hassle if they misunderstand. They're extra touchy these days too.

    Guess what? That's all I said when I was detained, interrogated for 6 hours, and then ultimately almost denied entry into the UK. Don't ask me why they decided to reverse my deportation 6 hours into the process. I still couldn't tell you. You're absolutely right. They will try to entrap you.

    But guess what? They don't need to. All they have to do if they suspect something dodgy is say no entry. And they don't need a reason, and they don't need proof of anything. They don't need to provide evidence for suspicion; they just have to say no. They'll also be highly curious as to how you were able to fund flights around the globe like a grasshopper. Even though others funded flights of mine in the past and even provided letters with their contact info, they personally hear excuses every day and all it sounds like to them is a simple and easy excuse.

    Man I really wish I found this thread before it had gotten to this point; I wish everyone an outcome that won't end badly. Maybe you'll have an easier time getting into the US than I did getting into the UK; regardless, they have gotten badly insecure with border customs these days. Be careful; you're on a tourist visa, you have almost no rights here.

    Is the eventual plan to return back to Finland in a few months? If so, then I could see it potentially working out, if you can financially find a way to get back home without the US State Department's help. (Actually it would most likely be the equivalent agency in your nearest embassy of Finland who would oversee that process ... and they only help you if you show up there. They won't drive to Texas to pick you up to give you a plane ride back home)

    I'm not trying to scare anybody here but I've dealt with scarily similar situations to the one you are describing (and literally everything went wrong) and I advise everyone involved to actually think this through with a grounding in reality and awareness of what year/density/countries/society we're in right now ... it's kind of a thinly veiled police state at best, even in the "free world."

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    #52
    04-30-2019, 02:47 PM
    (04-30-2019, 02:38 PM)einmal Wrote: I just barely read some of this thread, and having some similar experience as a homeless person (US citizen in an EU country) I just want to chime in, I can tell you that, without a visa, you will absolutely be deported, possibly blacklisted from entering the US ever again once they do make you leave, and any work at all without a visa is basically ... highly illegal. Have you done much research into this? This could eventually be a harder situation to get out of, than to get into. (Just ask me, it's exactly what happened to me).

    Shucks, I see you've already bought the ticket. I wish you guys luck. I haven't read the entire thread but from what I gather you don't have a visa. What is your plan when that time period expires? Continual travel between two countries on a vacation or tourists' visa reeks to those border guards. The border guards are totally trained for this stuff. I learned that the hard way as a naive individual traveling around the world like it was just okay and allowed to be anywhere. Even with my US citizenship, I have no rights in any other country but mine. I was never allowed to even try to make a living abroad. Detained and interrogated for 6 hours straight. It's really not wise to do this without that legal homework done, so to speak. All the information is available on countries' websites.

    I read about it online and from what I can tell i should be fine to do one 3 month visit with a friend, i dont plan to overstay or do paid work, thats quite clear to me to be illegal. I dont plan to do a second 3 month visit quickly and I do realize my rights visiting in the US are very limited, I've been there before so this should be "easy", I've also not been a bt surprised that homeless people in other states have 0 rights. Its possible I will be deported immediately and I've made arrangements to not lose my living here, it would be terribly sad if it happens but I'll live with it, worst would be to gemini for losing the ticket money if I get deported.
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    04-30-2019, 02:53 PM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2019, 02:54 PM by einmal.)
    And I want to reiterate: I really do wish IGW and Cyan all the best; I know that my situation had its own set of intricacies and its own inherent circumstantial variations. Just because it went wrong for me doesn't mean it has to for you. But be careful, use caution, and try not to lie to any officials, it's generally not a good idea unless you're a really great liar/manipulator who can keep their story straight. And I think we're all here (if you identify as a wanderer or not, I don't know) biased towards honesty either way.

    I wish you guys well. I will definitely be eager to check in with you guys once he's successfully made it through US customs.

    Both of you guys, always feel free to send me a PM if you need advice or opinion or have any questions really ... Been in a similar situation before!

    edit: that's good to hear. I hope you enjoy your time in Texas!

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    04-30-2019, 03:19 PM
    I know from my work that it is important to not hint that you could work in your time there. We have to state something like "attending a business meeting to review specifications" or something like that. I heard a story of a lady that made the mistake to say she was going there "for work" and that it became a huge hassle to get past the border.

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    04-30-2019, 03:22 PM
    Not going for work and not going to work while there, Wonder if they accept work as "doing the dishes" I probably wont even say that.

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    04-30-2019, 03:26 PM
    (04-30-2019, 03:22 PM)Cyan Wrote: Not going for work and not going to work while there, Wonder if they accept work as "doing the dishes" I probably wont even say that.


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    04-30-2019, 03:31 PM
    (04-30-2019, 03:26 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (04-30-2019, 03:22 PM)Cyan Wrote: Not going for work and not going to work while there, Wonder if they accept work as "doing the dishes" I probably wont even say that.


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    04-30-2019, 03:32 PM


    Actually this one is even better, what if Finland invaded while away

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    04-30-2019, 03:41 PM


    Or this one. BigSmile

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    04-30-2019, 03:49 PM


    Then again, this community sometimes makes me feel like this, but rarely. That being said, I'll hush now and let other people respond if they feel like it. BigSmile

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